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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:29 am |
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| 23ib0d0n wrote: |
My IZH 46m likes Yellow Vogel Match Pellets in 4.48mm and I've been able to put alot of them "in the black", which for me is pretty tough most of the time . . .  |
Does the 4.48 fit pretty loose? |
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:12 am |
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Bhargav,
I asked the same question to Rich in Mi. after he installed the .20 cal.barrel on my CR Quest.He told me to try the Beeman Field Target Special pellets (FTS).
So I placed an order with http://www.pyramydair.com/ and ordered the
Beeman FTS's in each caliber The 4th tin is free so I stuck in another .20 cal. because that is my favorite shooter.
I have shoot all three cal's in my guns and am supprised at the accuracy they produce.I am supprised that 23ib0d0n hasn't mentioned these pellets ! It seems most Field Target shooters love these pellets.
But again some guns only funtion well with a certain brand
Maybe 23ib0d0n will ring in on this subject and give us a review on these pellets as well..
BBGun Bob
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:03 am |
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| easy wrote: |
| Does the 4.48 fit pretty loose? |
They're just right in the 46m, but it has a tight bore. The 4.48mm are too small for the Diana 6m and HyScore 816, so they get the 4.50mm or 4.51mm size.
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Bhargav,
I asked the same question to Rich in Mi. after he installed the .20 cal.barrel on my CR Quest.He told me to try the Beeman Field Target Special pellets (FTS).
So I placed an order with http://www.pyramydair.com/ and ordered the
Beeman FTS's in each caliber The 4th tin is free so I stuck in another .20 cal. because that is my favorite shooter.
I have shoot all three cal's in my guns and am supprised at the accuracy they produce.I am supprised that 23ib0d0n hasn't mentioned these pellets ! It seems most Field Target shooters love these pellets.
But again some guns only funtion well with a certain brand
Maybe 23ib0d0n will ring in on this subject and give us a review on these pellets as well..
BBGun Bob |
FTS are ok in some HW and FWB, and the occasional Lothar Walther barreled Diana {a few older TO1 guns from what I gather}
Most of mine like Crosman Premiers {I haven't seen all those "bad" things that are on 'other' forums} The graphite die release agent that everyone wants to "wash off", hasn't been any problem for me.
CPL and CPH work great in most Diana and work well in Sumatra with the power turned WAY down. Falcon FN19 shoots 14.3 premiers very well, as does the Mac1 HW barrel Talon.
At $50 a 'sleeve' from Pyramyd, the only reason to shoot anything else is if the barrel won't group with them or it is a low power pistol that prefers Dynamit Nobel Hobbies or Basics.
FT shooters may also use H&N Baracuda {Kodiak match} or JSB Exact / heavy etc if the gun they shoot has a real preference. The choke on Diana barrels usually allow them to group several pellets very well.
Mine do . . .  |
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:45 am |
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That the .20 cal.barrel Rich put on the Quest for me is a Lother/Walther barrel.Maybe thats why is shoots them so good.
Thank You 23
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:48 pm |
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| 23ib0d0n wrote: |
My IZH 46m likes Yellow Vogel Match Pellets in 4.48mm and I've been able to put alot of them "in the black", which for me is pretty tough most of the time . . .  |
Unfortunately Pyramyd doesn't have vogel pellets. I am thinking of ordering the silicone oil so some tins of pellets can come in the bundle as i have to pay the shipping. |
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:10 pm |
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so since the 4th tin is free at pyramydair, which 4 brands would you recommend for my IZH to test out, and i will order.
I am thinking of the following :
1) Benjamin .177 diabolo 7.9gr
2) Beeman .177 FTS .177 8.8gr
3) Beeman .177 (4.5mm) laser sport wadcutter 7.7 gr
4) ?? <-- should i try some crossman stuff ?
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:35 pm |
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| Bhargav wrote: |
so since the 4th tin is free at pyramydair, which 4 brands would you recommend for my IZH to test out, and i will order.
I am thinking of the following :
1) Benjamin .177 diabolo 7.9gr
2) Beeman .177 FTS .177 8.8gr
3) Beeman .177 (4.5mm) laser sport wadcutter 7.7 gr
4) ?? <-- should i try some crossman stuff ?
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I'd try a tin of Crosman Premier 7.9 wadcutters. I base that on a lot of positive comments and very few negative comments. |
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:50 pm |
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For the price point, Dynamit Nobel Basics shoot exceptionally well in my 46m and as long as the pellets or tin aren't obviously bent or otherwise damaged, they shoot great. That's why I bought 2 sleeves of Basics and 2 sleeves of Hobbies. Awesome price on Basics at Pyramyd and Midsouth ran a deal on Hobbies a few months ago, something insane like $3 a tin - couldn't pass up that deal.  |
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:30 pm |
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with the silicone oil??If so you can use the sil-oil in the auto parts store with teflon in it.You remove pellets from tin and put a thin piece of foam in the bottom then spray the foam that way it only lubes the out side of the pellets(gently shake them around a little) where it is needed.Do not over do it A lite coat is all you want on your pellets.I have even heard of some people using PAM no stick for cooking on there pellets.
I'll try a little of the teflon based oil this summer.No PAM in my bore!!
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:00 pm |
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| BBGun Bob wrote: |
with the silicone oil??If so you can use the sil-oil in the auto parts store with teflon in it.You remove pellets from tin and put a thin piece of foam in the bottom then spray the foam that way it only lubes the out side of the pellets(gently shake them around a little) where it is needed.Do not over do it A lite coat is all you want on your pellets.I have even heard of some people using PAM no stick for cooking on there pellets.
I'll try a little of the teflon based oil this summer.No PAM in my bore!!
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MSP, PCP & SSP may or may not like lubed pellets - but springers really need friction at the start of the bore to develop pressure for the power pulse. Lube will jerk the carpet right out from under a springers ability to produce good power or consistant accuracy. |
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:00 am |
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| BBGun Bob wrote: |
with the silicone oil??If so you can use the sil-oil in the auto parts store with teflon in it.You remove pellets from tin and put a thin piece of foam in the bottom then spray the foam that way it only lubes the out side of the pellets(gently shake them around a little) where it is needed.Do not over do it A lite coat is all you want on your pellets.I have even heard of some people using PAM no stick for cooking on there pellets.
I'll try a little of the teflon based oil this summer.No PAM in my bore!!
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what i am planning to do is, soak couple of cleaning pellets and fire. this way the bore will be cleared and then one drop in the compression chamber after every 1000 pellets. |
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