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Air Gun Home Forum Index » Rifles » Phantom Question Goto page 1, 2  Next    View previous topic :: View next topic  Phantom Question   Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 3:11 pm Jeremy Veteran Member Joined: 19 May 2010 Posts: 154 Hi Guys I got my new phantom a few weeks ago and noticed in the last couple days that there are some black marks around the breech seal, what is causing it? the metal itself is not gouged or anything but there is some blackening? would it be the finish on the gun wearing off around the breech? the pic I uploaded here is not the best but you might be able to see. Thanks [/img]   Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 4:11 pm sniper Silver Status Member Joined: 28 Nov 2008 Posts: 3752 Location: Star, Idaho it's lead dust. it's normal. _________________ I believe in gun control, If there's a gun around I want to be controlling it.......   Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:52 pm AirGunEric Site Admin Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 6930 Location: "Out There" It does appear to just be lead dust and oil- wipe it off with some tissue paper or such as it accumulates. _________________ ` I'd say "I care." But I'd be lying. Canadian Airgun Supplier: http://www.scopesandammo.com/storefront   Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:42 am fritz Silver Status Member Joined: 25 Nov 2008 Posts: 2444 Location: New Jersey- outside of Philadelphia That's barely any... wipe it off and keep shooting. _________________ "I never set out to be wierd, it was always everyone else who called me it" -Frank Zappa Speed is impressive, accuracy is deadly. It's not that I'm not a people person, it's just that I'm not a stupid people person.   Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 11:56 am Jeremy Veteran Member Joined: 19 May 2010 Posts: 154 I went to wipe it off but its still there, almost like its burnished on the steel. Its funny cause you can see it in some light and not other,lol. I dont think its a problem though, its not scraped or gouged , just a discoloring of the steel   Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 12:30 pm Crosman140 Senior Member Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 663 Location: USA Makes me wonder if it was maybe always there but covered up at first with the lube that is on the o-ring. Perhaps now some of the lube is rubbed off allowing you to be able to see the minor discoloration. _________________ My Critter Gitters .22 Crosman 140 (1955) .177 Crosman G1 (2009) .177 Crosman 1377 (2009) .177 Daisy 880 (2019) BB Daisy Red Ryder (2012) BB Daisy Buck (2019) BB Crosman 1600 (1980) BB Marksman 1010 (1979)   Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 1:56 pm donec Senior Member Joined: 19 Dec 2009 Posts: 836 Location: central Texas Pflugerville area I wonder if it could be burn marks from dieseling?   Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 2:06 pm Jeremy Veteran Member Joined: 19 May 2010 Posts: 154 Crosman140 wrote: Makes me wonder if it was maybe always there but covered up at first with the lube that is on the o-ring. Perhaps now some of the lube is rubbed off allowing you to be able to see the minor discoloration. Yeah thats what I maybe thought, not a problem though right? I dont think its dieseling, I have only had the gun a few weeks and havent applied any lube.   Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 4:25 pm donec Senior Member Joined: 19 Dec 2009 Posts: 836 Location: central Texas Pflugerville area Believe it or not that is probably the most common time for dieseling (unless it is done intentionally) because of all the gunk / preservatives that are in the barrel of new guns.   Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 7:05 pm Jeremy Veteran Member Joined: 19 May 2010 Posts: 154 donec wrote: Believe it or not that is probably the most common time for dieseling (unless it is done intentionally) because of all the gunk / preservatives that are in the barrel of new guns. Oh really, I didn't know that.Learn something with these things all the time. Do you think this will be a problem with my gun in the future? I hope its okay thanks again for the help guys, I really appreciate it very much   Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:32 am Crosman140 Senior Member Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 663 Location: USA Jeremy wrote: Crosman140 wrote: Makes me wonder if it was maybe always there but covered up at first with the lube that is on the o-ring. Perhaps now some of the lube is rubbed off allowing you to be able to see the minor discoloration. Yeah thats what I maybe thought, not a problem though right? I dont think its dieseling, I have only had the gun a few weeks and havent applied any lube. No, not a problem. In time, you might want to add some new lube to the o-ring just to assure a good, tight seal when the barrel is returned to its upright position. I have a paste silicone lube that I used to use to seal the o-ring on watch-backs in the jewelry business if a customer had a leaky watch. _________________ My Critter Gitters .22 Crosman 140 (1955) .177 Crosman G1 (2009) .177 Crosman 1377 (2009) .177 Daisy 880 (2019) BB Daisy Red Ryder (2012) BB Daisy Buck (2019) BB Crosman 1600 (1980) BB Marksman 1010 (1979)   Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:24 pm Jeremy Veteran Member Joined: 19 May 2010 Posts: 154 cool, thanks for helping me clear this up   Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:46 am domer_pyle Senior Member Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Posts: 523 When I bought the Big Cat I used to have it had the same thing right out of the box in the same place. Same thing, visible in some light and not others. Keep wiping it even if it doesn't come off cause mine turned into rust pretty quick for some reason   Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:29 am Crosman140 Senior Member Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 663 Location: USA domer_pyle wrote: When I bought the Big Cat I used to have it had the same thing right out of the box in the same place. Same thing, visible in some light and not others. Keep wiping it even if it doesn't come off cause mine turned into rust pretty quick for some reason You can wipe it and that's OK. But I recommend you treat your nice air rifles like powder burners and keep them oiled and protected. I coat all my guns with Johnson's Paste Wax. Wipe it on...let it sit for a minute...wipe it off. Leaves an oil-free rust preventing coating. _________________ My Critter Gitters .22 Crosman 140 (1955) .177 Crosman G1 (2009) .177 Crosman 1377 (2009) .177 Daisy 880 (2019) BB Daisy Red Ryder (2012) BB Daisy Buck (2019) BB Crosman 1600 (1980) BB Marksman 1010 (1979)   Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:27 am Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA Quote: I coat all my guns with Johnson's Paste Wax. Many, many moons ago I read an article (Field & Stream, I think) about "weatherizing" guns for hunting in extreme damp conditions. They advocated taking the action out of the stock and hitting everything with paste wax. _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego! 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