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.25 Marauder and Marauder pistol wll be out April 2010 
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:59 pm Reply with quote
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25 Marauder.
Following up on the popular Benjamin®® Discovery PCP air rifle comes the revolutionary Benjamin®® Marauder! This powerful new PCP air rifle offers all the features needed for field target shooting and small game hunting.
The Marauder features a Crosman Custom choked barrel and internal shroud for unsurpassed accuracy and ultra quiet operation. The new two stage adjustable, match grade trigger pack with a metal trigger makes every shot smooth and steady. The Marauder also has a raised aluminum breech with a heavy duty pull bolt making loading the gun and mounting a scope a snap. The Marauder is also a Multi-Shot rifle with the new 8 shot auto indexing clip. This gun also operates at fill pressures between 2,000 and 3,000 psi. This rifle can be filled with the Benjamin®® hand pump or a high pressure tank.
This powerful and exciting air rifle will once again set Benjamin®® as the value to performance leader in the PCP category.
Available April 2010
There are also rumers of a .700fps .22 marauder pistol,but nothing on the site yet about it.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:15 pm Reply with quote
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mac-1 is now taking orders on the .25. i read on another forum
it is supposed to hit 45 fpe out of the box. Shocked

i'm gonna find out this week how much tim will sell the barrels for.

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it is supposed to hit 45 fpe out of the box

If it is set up for that.... my guess is that is has more parts different than just the barrel.... I'm thinking bigger valve and porting....
Either way.... the shot count will go down by AT LEAST the difference in power.... If a current MRod gives 30 shots at 30 FPE figure no more than 20 shots at 45 FPE.... Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:13 pm Reply with quote
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i agree bob. the guy who's post i read www.varmintair.com
edit: that is his website, not the post i read.
ordered one from tim and is looking at 15 or so full power shots.

gotta get to the shop and talk to the man. Mr. Green

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:30 pm Reply with quote
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now here's my idea. mid buys the .25. i just buy the barrel.
you catch a plane down here. we meet at "the angeles ranges"
half way between mid and i and the 3 of us shoot FT with tim. Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:37 pm Reply with quote
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sniper wrote:
mac-1 is now taking orders on the .25. i read on another forum
it is supposed to hit 45 fpe out of the box. Shocked

i'm gonna find out this week how much tim will sell the barrels for.


And the ...mag / pellet probe..

Shot count..My Career at 45fpe gives about 20/24 shots
on the full power setting....& about 60 on the 400fps setting.
Maybe a bit diffrent to a .25 M as the career's a .22 & dose
45fpe @ 1220fps with a 14.5 grain pellet..

yer but somewhere in the low 20s seems about right..

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:19 pm Reply with quote
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ok, i just saw tim. he hasn't had his hands on one yet.
he believes it'll be 50ish fpe out of the box at 3000 psi.
he said in his opinion the shot strings should be the same
25-30 as .25 will be more air efficient than .22.
he doesn't think or believe any of the internals will be
any different. getting the barrels from him will be a while.

that's what the man said. Neutral

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OK.... so the suggestion is 25-30 shots of 50 FPE starting at 3000 psi shooting down to say 1500?.... and I now know that MRod reservoir is 215 cc (13.1 cu.in.)

13.1 x 1500 / 14.5 = 1355 cu.in. @ 1 Bar....

30 x 50 = 1500 FPE.... divided by 1355 = 1.11 FPE/c.i.... (for 25 shots, it would be 0.92 FPE/c.i.)....

OK, so let's say that's do-able.... My Disco runs anywhere from 1.0 to 1.2 FPE/c.i. depending on tune.... No reason to expect less from an MRod....

So what's with the .22 MRod?.... I just don't get it....

Same air usage.... 30 shots of what, 30 FPE?....

30 x 30 = 900 FPE.... divided by 1355 = 0.66 FPE/c.i.... Shocked

Have I got these numbers all wrong?.... if so, please correct me (sniper?).... How many shots at what energy and from what pressure to what pressure are you getting?....

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:41 pm Reply with quote
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bob,

you have the numbers right based on what i have been told.
remember, my mrod out of the box was doing 27 shots +- 20 fps
from 2150 down to 1650 psi. that was at 28 fpe/kodiaks.
since i opened the velocity adjuster 1.5 turns out i've gained around
2fpe but lost around 3-4 shots per fill. i still haven't adjusted anything
else. when i told tim the numbers i'm getting at the same 1650-2150 peak he was surprised.

varmintair.com told me his .22 mrod was getting 30 shots +- 20fps
from 3000psi (down to what i'm not sure) at 30 fpe/18 grain jsb's.

beyond that your math formulas still make my head hurt. Laughing Razz
i hope my answer was clear enough.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:24 pm Reply with quote
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rsterne wrote:
OK.... so the suggestion is 25-30 shots of 50 FPE starting at 3000 psi shooting down to say 1500?.... and I now know that MRod reservoir is 215 cc (13.1 cu.in.)

13.1 x 1500 / 14.5 = 1355 cu.in. @ 1 Bar....

30 x 50 = 1500 FPE.... divided by 1355 = 1.11 FPE/c.i.... (for 25 shots, it would be 0.92 FPE/c.i.)....

OK, so let's say that's do-able.... My Disco runs anywhere from 1.0 to 1.2 FPE/c.i. depending on tune.... No reason to expect less from an MRod....

So what's with the .22 MRod?.... I just don't get it....

Same air usage.... 30 shots of what, 30 FPE?....

30 x 30 = 900 FPE.... divided by 1355 = 0.66 FPE/c.i.... Shocked

Have I got these numbers all wrong?.... if so, please correct me (sniper?).... How many shots at what energy and from what pressure to what pressure are you getting?....

Bob


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Numbers! Mr. Green

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:16 pm Reply with quote
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Using snipers numbers....

27 shots at 28 FPE is 27 x 28 = 756 FPE
24 shots at 30 FPE is 24 x 30 = 720 FPE

2150 psi down to 1650 is only 500 psi (I'm surprised by that)....

13.1 x 500 / 14.5 = 451 cu.in. air at 1 Bar

756 / 451 = 1.67 FPE/c.i.
720 / 451 = 1.60 FPe/c.i.

That is EXCELLENT efficiency.... Mr. Green

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:25 pm Reply with quote
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it certainly is. Mr. Green

tim also drilled out the baffles and endcap yesterday to 7mm.

i need to put it back on paper and see if it's less picky.

though his partner said a lot of them ONLY like kodiaks. Shocked

so far mine has 5 pellets that it likes from silver bears to EJ's.

i guess i have no complaints..... Cool

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All numbers aside that pistol is just nasty looking! the little limb rats would never come out if they saw that! has anyone heard a price yet? I just may have to stat saving Twisted Evil

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