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Air Gun Home Forum Index » The BS Topic » Genealogy    View previous topic :: View next topic  Genealogy   Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:16 am Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA I've been working on the family history, and boy can you Canadian guys keep records. On the Irish side there is pretty much nothing until they reached these shores in the mid 1800's. On the Canadian side there are church and government records back to 1625. I suspect it might have something to do with the number of pubs per square mile, but I might be wrong. _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:40 am radar Silver Status Member Joined: 13 Nov 2011 Posts: 1138 Location: Des Moines, Iowa, USA That's cool! Me, I know more than enough about my family. My mother's side was the erudite side with the doctors and the table manners. My father's side were the trouble makers. Smart, mechanically/engineering inclined, and independent, but you know...uh...drinkers. _________________ It's never too late to have a happy childhood.   Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:12 pm rsterne Moderator Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 2998 Location: Coalmont, BC Yeah, my records once in Canada are pretty good - the Census' are pretty much online now which makes it easier than going over Microfilms.... Ireland is a disaster.... Before/during? WW2 the government gathered all the Church records into one central depository in Dublin?.... which then burnt down, losing all the records.... Bob _________________ Dominion Marksman Silver Shield - 5890 x 6000 in 1976, and downhill ever since! Airsonal: Too many to count!   Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:14 pm Alstone Moderator & Site Supporter Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 4139 Location: Linconshire, ENGLAND For the republic of Ireland you could try: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/ They have the complete census for 1901 and 1911and I have used it with good results. Al _________________   Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:52 pm Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA Quote: For the republic of Ireland you could try: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/ They have the complete census for 1901 and 1911 and I have used it with good results. Thanks, Al - the last of my people came over in 1863. Another roadblock that I have found relates to "souperism." (Catholics converting to the Church of Ireland for their soup kitchens during the potato famine.) Who knows which church records would have them. I guess someday I'll have to go myself and do the research. If I do, I'll come and visit. It's only a couple hours' walk from Ireland to England, right? There is a government document from 1853 called "The Valuation of Tenements" that gives the street address of my gg grandfather. Another hurdle is that we in the U.S. didn't have a central Immigration and Naturalization Service until 1906. Immigrants petitioned a county or circuit court judge for citizenship, so the records are spread all over. Anyway, it's fun. I'm not in it to prove that I'm secretly the owner of Stonehenge, or anything like that. It's mostly so the kids will have some solid information should they ever become interested. _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:52 pm Alstone Moderator & Site Supporter Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 4139 Location: Linconshire, ENGLAND A few years ago we took the car and went touring southern Ireland for a holiday and to fill in some gaps in my ancestry, my father was Irish and we used to go over regularly, but the problem is you don’t ask the right questions when your parents are alive. We were searching graveyards for information but what we did not know was that over their are a lot of graveyards without churches, so no records apart what is on the graves, and there being a lot of poor people who only had a wooden cross, which decomposed over time and all trace was lost. We photographed over 200 gravestones for later referance. The most information we got was by knocking on the door of a house, that you knew one of my relatives/ancester lived in, and usually all the skeletons would be revealed. Good Stuff Where’re only 4 hours away from Dublin so if you come over give me a shout. Al _________________ Re: Genealogy   Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:19 pm SMP Silver Status Member Joined: 04 Feb 2011 Posts: 1183 Location: Just south of "Out There"- Land O Lakes Ontario Slavia wrote: I've been working on the family history, and boy can you Canadian guys keep records. On the Irish side there is pretty much nothing until they reached these shores in the mid 1800's. On the Canadian side there are church and government records back to 1625. I suspect it might have something to do with the number of pubs per square mile, but I might be wrong. Thats great Slavia. Yes it could be the Pubs or it could be the fact that it's dark and cold for half the year and there wasn't anything much better to do than drink, make babies and write about them My geneology is actually pretty simple for the first few hundred years. I'm the 6th generation on the same piece of land. Past that one family branch is really easy as it is the House of Stewart The other branch is McGowan which means Smith from Cambeltown. We've been and seen the church record for GrGr and GrGrGr.....but after that is the abyss. Al When I finally get round to claiming the Throne of Scotland I'll pop down for a cup of tea _________________ Sean Re: Genealogy   Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:35 pm Alstone Moderator & Site Supporter Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 4139 Location: Linconshire, ENGLAND SMP wrote: Al When I finally get round to claiming the Throne of Scotland I'll pop down for a cup of tea You will have to be quick Sean the Scott's are after independence, and the English are also rooting for them to get it. Al _________________   Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:05 pm SMP Silver Status Member Joined: 04 Feb 2011 Posts: 1183 Location: Just south of "Out There"- Land O Lakes Ontario Why do you think Hadrian spent so much time building a wall _________________ Sean   Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:21 pm Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA Quote: a lot of graveyards without churches, so no records Same here. My ancestors came from a small town in Ireland (Schull), and mostly settled together in Wisconsin. Most of them are in a township cemetary near the settlement. There is a "find a grave" organization, and someone took the trouble of enumerating everyone in that cemetary, along with photos of the markers for many. Quote: the problem is you don’t ask the right questions when your parents are alive. Ain't that the truth. Quote: it could be the fact that it's dark and cold for half the year and there wasn't anything much better to do than drink, make babies and write about them I can understand that. Minnesota is dark and cold for half the year, I already had my beer for the year, my babies are grown, so guess what I'm doing..... _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego! 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