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Air Gun Home Forum Index » General Air Gun Questions and Topics » Buying a Rifle (HELP) Goto page 1, 2  Next    View previous topic :: View next topic  Buying a Rifle (HELP)   Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:35 am Dw790 New Member Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Posts: 10 Hi! i'm glad i found this site, this is my first post here and im sure there are experienced people here who can help me out to choose my rifle. the problem is i wanna buy a new rifle but i dont know wich one to choose, there are Soo MANY out there! i'm looking for a rifle that is: *Very strong ..looong distance shots and much power! *very good accurancy *doesnt get jammed or have troubles with later i did some research on the internet i found a list of rifles (pcp and break barrel),, i'm confused on wich one to get ..wich one will satisfy my needs..i need your advices!!! the rifles are: 1-Diana Magnum RWS 350 rifle 2-Diana Magnum RWS 460 rifle 3-FX Monsoon rifle i know #3 is the most expensive but its ok i have collected a budget of $1600 .... wich one u recommend for me!? or if u know any other types u recommend please tell me! thanks alot!!! and excuse my bad spelling am from kuwait   Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:08 am rsterne Moderator Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 2998 Location: Coalmont, BC Have you checked deeper into PCP rifles?.... great power, easier to shoot accurately than a magnum springer, but they do require either a pump or SCUBA tank to fill.... Even with a tank, you can get a very nice setup within your budget.... Even a Discovery, the entry level PCP rifle, has as much power as a 350 or 460 magnum.... Bob _________________ Dominion Marksman Silver Shield - 5890 x 6000 in 1976, and downhill ever since! Airsonal: Too many to count!   Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:20 am kanyon Silver Status Member Joined: 09 Aug 2008 Posts: 1582 Location: New Zealand Hi..welcome.. All 3 rifles are very good... the 2 Diana's being spring powered are the hardest to shoot as spring guns have a double recoil efect....that can make them senstive to the way they are held... The FX monsoon being a PCP PCP = pre charged pneumatic Has next to no recoil...but they do have a limited shot count on a charge.. And with a PCP buying the gun is only the start...You will need a pump to fill it..with can take up to 150 pumps.. And its not easy to pump to 3000psi Or you can use a scuba tank with a fill station...which is more $ for the set up.. And you have to have somewhere to get the tank filled close enough ... If I was asked for advice I would point you towards the Diana 350 which is a very good gun to start with.. good backyard plinker/target shooter and has more than enough power to use for hunting up to rabbit/possum size game.... Pete   Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:03 am fritz Silver Status Member Joined: 25 Nov 2008 Posts: 2444 Location: New Jersey- outside of Philadelphia Hello Dw, and welcome. What exactly will you be shooting? Is it legal in your area? Are you a shooter from the other disciplines? Magnum springers can be hard to cock, are often a challenge to shoot accurately, but it's so much fun. The Dianas are all great rifles and you can't go wrong with any of them. I recommend the D54, because of the recoil system which makes it recoiless (will bust scopes, though). Maybe you should take a better look at the pcp world. There are better options for *MOAR POWA*. Look at the AirForce rifles (particularly the Condor), the Evanix line, Sumatra line, and ShinSung. _________________ "I never set out to be wierd, it was always everyone else who called me it" -Frank Zappa Speed is impressive, accuracy is deadly. It's not that I'm not a people person, it's just that I'm not a stupid people person.   Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:27 am Dw790 New Member Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Posts: 10 Look at the AirForce rifles (particularly the Condor), the Evanix line, Sumatra line, and ShinSung.[/quote] are these rifles better (more powerfull) then the FX monsoon? .. because i dont think their availble here but i can order one instead of the fx monsoon ...if its really worth it???   Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:59 pm Mark5043 Silver Status Member Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 1379 Hi there,and welcome to the forum! You have a few variables based on the rifles you are looking at.What is your main purpose for your selection?I see you are looking for power...okay,do you care about noise level etc?I wouldn't mind the Monsoon myself...semi-auto would be a kick.However that wouldn't be a primary factor in my choice.I prefer a combination of power,AND quiet operation.The Monsoon will do this,but so will some others,and for less cash.So are you going to use the rifle for hunting,target shooting or both?Are you looking for sheer grunt,and a-lot of noise,or are you looking for a well balanced rifle,that has a combination of power,accuracy,and stealth?   Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:52 pm Dw790 New Member Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Posts: 10 Mark5043 wrote: Hi there,and welcome to the forum! You have a few variables based on the rifles you are looking at.What is your main purpose for your selection?I see you are looking for power...okay,do you care about noise level etc?I wouldn't mind the Monsoon myself...semi-auto would be a kick.However that wouldn't be a primary factor in my choice.I prefer a combination of power,AND quiet operation.The Monsoon will do this,but so will some others,and for less cash.So are you going to use the rifle for hunting,target shooting or both?Are you looking for sheer grunt,and a-lot of noise,or are you looking for a well balanced rifle,that has a combination of power,accuracy,and stealth? . Well I'm looking for a rifle for both hunting and target shooting (loong distance) ... I"m primarily focusing on power and accurancy , stealth is very good ... A combination of all of this is so good but not if it gives me a rifle that is a lot weaker than the noisy ones... lol what would u reccomend?   Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:39 pm fritz Silver Status Member Joined: 25 Nov 2008 Posts: 2444 Location: New Jersey- outside of Philadelphia I'll say it right now that with any of the FX's you will not be disappointed. Price point is a bit high, and you will need like $500 for accessories to shoot it (that includes a scope). The AF Condor maxes out at around 66fpe IIRC. The low end of loadings for .22lr cartridges produce about 75fpe. The Korean smallbores will do similar energies. All of these HIGH powered pcp rifles produce a LOT of noise. What is the maximum distance you see yourself shooting? Almost all real world small game hunting happens under 50 yards. A great majority of that is probably between 20 and 35 yards. In my travels, it's not very hard to nail a squirrel at 35 yards with my Benjamin SuperStreak (with a D350 spring in it) (read: Diana 350). Even at that distance a .22 CPH goes clear through the head, giving a nice crack when it hits tree behind it. _________________ "I never set out to be wierd, it was always everyone else who called me it" -Frank Zappa Speed is impressive, accuracy is deadly. It's not that I'm not a people person, it's just that I'm not a stupid people person.   Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:25 pm Mark5043 Silver Status Member Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 1379 Dw790 wrote: Well I'm looking for a rifle for both hunting and target shooting (loong distance) ... I"m primarily focusing on power and accurancy , stealth is very good ... A combination of all of this is so good but not if it gives me a rifle that is a lot weaker than the noisy ones... lol what would u reccomend? Well I would go with a PCP for sure.Your shooting will be more consistent,due to lack of recoil,as opposed to a springer,unless of course you are seasoned with springers.FX guns are great,but I don't feel they are the best value. Fritz is correct,in that you can get over 60FPE with a Condor or AR-6,but they are loud as sh!t!You can get great long distance power,and accuracy with a PCP in the 20-35 FPE range.You can't go wrong with guns like the Benjamin Marauder,for decent power,superb accuracy,and total stealth,at less than half the price of a Monsoon,with all the gear you need to operate it. Plus... with all the $$$$ you will save,you can get yourself a chrony+printer,which will allow you to dial in the gun for your needs,and a healthy supply of ammo!It really comes down to how much you want to spend.FX guns are really nice,but I personally wouldn't spend that much."However you may feel differently".   Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:11 pm sniper Silver Status Member Joined: 28 Nov 2008 Posts: 3752 Location: Star, Idaho damn!! DW reminds me of... me. eveyone has covered it. do a lot of research and test fire if possible. sounds like you're headed towards a pcp. i have a marauder and can't put it down. not the highest power on the market but it is DEAD SILENT. _________________ I believe in gun control, If there's a gun around I want to be controlling it.......   Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:13 pm kanyon Silver Status Member Joined: 09 Aug 2008 Posts: 1582 Location: New Zealand If you are looking for a higher powered PCP... Look at a Career Infinity .22 45fpe Evanix Blizzard .22 45fpe Both have heaps of power.. Adjustable power out put 6 shot mags.. I have a infinity its a great gun.. just sold a Evanix AR6..65fpe I liked the power but the career is a nicer alround gun .. pete ...   Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:54 am Dw790 New Member Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Posts: 10 Hi, thanks all for ur help! i went to the shop today and i'm dissapointed they don't have most of the rifles mentioned here...they told me the fx monsoon is the strongest pcp rifle they have there... so i dunno if i should go for it or just wait until i travel to get a better rifle...   Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:47 pm broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands The Monsoon has some wear and tear problems. FX used to make, or still makes another Semi-auto PCP which has a better system. I'd advice something that isn't Semi-auto though. Look at english brands. I prefer Air Arms. Go ahead, don't be shy and take a look. _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:25 pm sniper Silver Status Member Joined: 28 Nov 2008 Posts: 3752 Location: Star, Idaho i would concur with broom. if i was rich like him i would trade my mroder for an airarms any day. based on your budget go euro. the mroder seems to be (so far) like the"entry level" high end pcp. i've not a complaint about it but for your budget go for broke. still, do a LOT of research, i've only had buyers remorse with burners and it does suck. _________________ I believe in gun control, If there's a gun around I want to be controlling it.......   Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:19 am broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands sniper wrote: i would concur with broom. if i was rich like him Make that a double I usually buy a gun, then get more money for it, or in combination with selling the gun and some financial extras from here and there, I can upgrade. That's how I got my Air Arms. I got my HW90 for the same amount of cash as what I got for my Diana 48. It works, and keeps the hobby flowing. Allthough I still have some projects left that don't get done. _________________ BIG GAP Buying a Rifle (HELP)     Air Gun Home Forum Index » General Air Gun Questions and Topics You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum All times are GMT - 5 Hours   Page 1 of 2   Goto page 1, 2  Next All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First  Select a forum Main Forums----------------AirGunHome Q&AGeneral Air Gun Questions and TopicsPicture GalleryTarget Shooting: Casual, Fun and CompetitionHunting, Pest Control, Varminting People/Events/Airgun Issue Discussion----------------Introduce YourselfThe BS TopicClubs/Events/Regional/Political Airgun Issues Maintenance, Modification and Reviews----------------RiflesPistolsAntique, Collector and Novelty AirgunsBB GunsPellets/AmmoOpticsAccessoriesAirgun Smithing Buy, Sell or Trade Forums----------------For SaleWant to Buy   Note: If you are seeing "Please enter your username and password to log in." 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