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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:10 pm Reply with quote
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Hi, Im new on this site but ive had my gamo bigcat 1200 for about a year now. Well Ive been getting sick of the 25 yard shooting in my backyard so I found a good 116 meter shooting area (google earth measurments) Doing the best scope adjustments as I could I was getting at the very best 12 inch groups and that was rare. Do I suck as shooting or is it the gun. What are reasonable groups at ranges like that? P.S All I had was gamo match pellets probly the worst option for long range shooting i know, and I have the standard 4x scope. Would getting a high magnification scope Improve this? Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:55 pm Reply with quote
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Welcome to AirGunHome Jordan.

Regarding your Gamo, first does it group well at 25m if so then you need a different pellet and something like a 32x scope would help, if it doesn’t group at 25m then try changing the pellet, someone else can probably recommend a better one, as for the 4x scope it will be at it’s limit at 25m but should give you some idea of how accurate the Gamo is. Mind you I think 100m is pushing it a bit, what's the flb output?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:09 pm Reply with quote
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Gamp Match wads?
Are you shooting with the gun on a stable rest?
(If offhand - 12inch groups at that distance would be very good
in my opinion)

I can't speak for the gun but I can tell you that I use the Gamo Match Wadcutters for a high volume of my general shooting. At 5 and 10m with my pistol I find them to be very accurate, at 10m with my rifle I also find them to be accurate but always expect a few surprises at the higher FPS.

Going from 10 to 20m with the rifle on a bipod my groups open to an inch. Maybe 3 out of 5 half-inch bulls with the other 2 somewhere else. I think that's typical of even better wadcuters. I've only had better results with the H&N Match Wads and they cost 3x as much.

I think the POI movement that i'm seeing would be greatly magnified at 5+ times the distance. So yeah, try a different pellet. I've had very good succes with Crossman Premier Heavies (not all guns like them). 19 out of 20 in a half inch bull at 20m and 16 out of 20 in a half inch at 35 yards (my limit). Even the misses (except for the occassional flyer) are near misses.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:54 pm Reply with quote
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My groups at 25m are within 2 inches if I really try. I have the gun rested on a sturdy surface. Is it reasonable to expect better groups from any 1000fps spring rifle. Maybe within 6 inches? Yes I am using gamo match wadcutters. Im going to try with the hunter ammo which is more aerodynamic, and supposed to have a better balistic coefficient. The energy at the muzzle is said to be around 16ft/lbs
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:37 pm Reply with quote
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I think you will find that wadcutters tend to stray a bit, when shooting further than 20m, also I think you are pushing it a bit expecting good groups at 100m with only 16flb.

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