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Air Gun Home Forum Index » Rifles » BSA Ultra    View previous topic :: View next topic  BSA Ultra   Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:54 am Alstone Moderator & Site Supporter Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 4139 Location: Linconshire, ENGLAND Anyone got a BSA Ultra, I'm thinking of getting one and was woundering if there is anything to look out for. AL _________________   Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:29 am cw Banned Joined: 10 Feb 2008 Posts: 1771 What's with the MMC cocking? My friend had one and instead of just pulling back on a bolt, you had to reach up in front of the forstock and pull back on this metal disc on a rod in order to cycle another round through the action. It was very awkward to say the least.   Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:59 am broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands Hunting. You get your gun loaded, but not cocked. I'd go for the BSA Scorpion, Al. They're not very big either. _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:45 am cw Banned Joined: 10 Feb 2008 Posts: 1771 The Scorpion looks like it doesn't have the Daffy Duck (I prefer him over Micky Mouse) cocking saucer in front of the forstock.   Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:40 pm Alstone Moderator & Site Supporter Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 4139 Location: Linconshire, ENGLAND Cheers CW, I have been offered an Ultra at a good price complete with pump, and scope three weeks old, but I agree with you the cocking method is a bit iffy, (Press the catch on the right to release the bolt put the pellet in press the bolt back, then press the cocking dish in the front) to much hassle for me I think. What I did like was that it took just 40 pumps for 30 shots, which suits me. It was just a good offer Anton but by the time I’d changed the scope to a AO type, it probably wouldn’t have been such a good offer, anyway I’ll keep looking, an s400/410 would be nice. Al _________________   Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:09 pm broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands Oh yes, that would be a pretty grand buy. _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:11 pm cw Banned Joined: 10 Feb 2008 Posts: 1771 Are you still going to associate with us if you get a 410? I mean, you are going to be upper crust then. Last edited by cw on Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:51 am; edited 1 time in total   Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:30 am Alstone Moderator & Site Supporter Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 4139 Location: Linconshire, ENGLAND Ha Ha! I'll probably finish up with a Crosman Disco CW, I'm just looking around for a PCP rifle that I fancy, the trouble is every one you look at has something you don't like, the Ultra is a good case to illustrate that, and I was being serious about the Disco. There going on sale in this country in September I think, so I''ll see what price they come out at, in the mean time I'm still looking. Al _________________   Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:56 am cw Banned Joined: 10 Feb 2008 Posts: 1771 I have been thinking about getting a Discovery and putting a Walther barrel on it.   Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:19 am broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands Walther-Lothar barrels aren't really that great. I've read plenty of times that BSA, Air Arms, or Weihrauch barrels are sufficient too, if not better. _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:37 am Alstone Moderator & Site Supporter Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 4139 Location: Linconshire, ENGLAND I think a "Walther" barrel is a diffrent thing to a "Walther-Lothar" barrel. I have an idea that it's two diffrent sides of the family. But I could be wrong. Al _________________   Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:24 am cw Banned Joined: 10 Feb 2008 Posts: 1771 You are right Al, two different sides of the same family. As far as their quality, besides the extreme presision that the barrels are held to during manufacture, they are the only company that I am aware of that makes their barrels out of Chome-Moly steel and then hardens them by tempering. If one is concerned with longevity, then they are a good choice. It's never a crap shoot trying to get an accurate barrel with Lothar Walther barrels. You always get a top shelf barrel with them. Broommaster, ALL of the barrels that you mention are fabricated from ordnance steel which is a little softer than mild steel. Ordnance steel is made soft on purpose, so that it is easy to machine. The ease of machinability makes ordnance steel especially easy to accurately inscribe the rifling into the bore. The rifling buttons don't have to be made out quite as hard of a material and last longer. Don't get me wrong, made right, ordnance and mild steel make for accurate barrels. The main drawback to using ordnance steel is that isn't as long lived as hardened Cro-Mo steel by a longshot.   Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:47 am broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands I can't help getting the feeling that you won't experience it so much. _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:11 am cw Banned Joined: 10 Feb 2008 Posts: 1771 Won't experience what? quality?   Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:45 pm Alstone Moderator & Site Supporter Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 4139 Location: Linconshire, ENGLAND From what I gather the barrel fitted to the Disco is quite good, and I would have thought that fitting a Walther-Lothar was a bit over the top unless your going to re-valve it and sort out the trigger and hammer movement, which then takes the cost up another level. I have to go with Anton on this one, on its own a better barrel may not perform 100% as it should. 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