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| BBGun Bob |
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there J .Could post a couple more pictures so I can get a better look.
I would like to put my RWS 48 in a stock like that.!! Its BEAUTIFUL.
Bob Schlund
Mich.
I got a picture of a TEXAS Squirrel Like they say EVERYTHING IS BIG IN TEXAS!!!! LOL
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:40 pm |
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| Rogerflat |
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| Well, the big test comes tonight. I sighted in yesterday and made some progress. I adjusted the scope and seemed to be able to consistently hit nickel size targets at 10 yards. I then just set the rifle down on its belling resting on a kleenex box and haven't touched it since. So I'm assuming that the next cold bore shot I take at a bird should hit its mark as long as I can get a good steady shot off. We'll see. I'll you guys know. |
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:11 pm |
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| broommaster2000 |
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Well, at least you got some tissues.
Bob, big game on the loose I see? |
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:30 pm |
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| Westonhill |
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| Rogerflat wrote: |
| Well, the big test comes tonight. I sighted in yesterday and made some progress. I adjusted the scope and seemed to be able to consistently hit nickel size targets at 10 yards. I then just set the rifle down on its belling resting on a kleenex box and haven't touched it since. So I'm assuming that the next cold bore shot I take at a bird should hit its mark as long as I can get a good steady shot off. We'll see. I'll you guys know. |
You don't sound like having much confidence shooting a bird at 10-yard with a scope...Man, if I am allowed to bet, I'll bet you missing the shot.  |
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:20 pm |
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| The outdoorsman |
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| Airguns are a real can of worms, and a bit of a catch 22. They aren't powerful enough to hunt large game with for the most part, but small game requires high accuracy. I have a spanish gamo that I've had tuned that shoots Ok now, but certainly doesn't over impress me. A .22 short rifle has way more power, much better accuracy, is easier to shoot, weighs less, costs less, and is almost as quiet! I've pretty much abandoned the notion of hunting with the Gamo because the wound rate is too high for me to feel good about pulling the trigger, but I still like plinking at cans that are within it's accurate range, like maybe 25 yards. |
well i have never herd of a .22 short rifle cartridge i have herd of long rifles and .22 shorts and it is debateable about cost, weight pellets are a lot lighter for the most parrt but a 22 rimfire kicks the sh!t out of the 22 AGs but NO WAY IN HELL would i suggest that rogger get a firearm.... |
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:33 pm |
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| Rogerflat wrote: |
| So I'm assuming that the next cold bore shot I take at a bird should hit its mark as long as I can get a good steady shot off. We'll see. I'll you guys know. |
I'd suggest not shooting at anything that is alive untill you sort out your accuracy issues for good. |
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:34 pm |
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| Rogerflat |
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As I figured I would, I got my chance at a bird yesterday afternoon. It was only a 6 yard shot! Amazingly, I shot it and a huge burst of feathers erupted, but it managed to fly a short distance to the top of the privacy fence. It was sort of hiding behind some dangling pine needles, but when the wind would blow them to the side, I could see that their was a wound in its lower right breast, and a fairly significant one at that.
I reloaded and took aim on it. I had to actually shoot through the pine needle cluster to get to it, but boy did that second shot make an impression. I knocked it off the backside of the fence into oblivion.
When I skinned it, I was shocked to see four pellet holes in the breast. It appears that both shots entered and exited the torso. I was surprised that the first shot didn't cripple it, but the pellet travels so fast and it was a superpoint, so I think it just passed through the bird causing minimal damage.
Anyway, I did manage to kill again, but barely. I also realized that I need to aim higher on the bird and instead of looking at the bird as one big target, just zero in on one small spot--aim small, miss small. |
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:58 pm |
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| thepaladin |
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For birds (and most all small game with an air gun for that matter) I always suggest a head shot. The problem with high velocity air guns is that a pellet can actually pass completely through without doing lethal damage.
I find (and it was mentioned earlier) that the usual problem with springer accuracy is in hold. The fore hand needs to be held loosely even allowing the gun to rest on the palm. Aspringer has to be allowed to recoil, attempting to hold it too tight will throw your aim off every time. |
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:23 am |
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| Rogerflat |
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I agree on both accounts. I realized that I have to not fight the recoil.
I shot a bird yesterday at about 6 yards. It was at the base of my cinderblock privacy fence. It was killed almost instantly. I went out to dispose of the corpse and examined it and the surrounding area. The pellet went straight through it of course, without even leaving much of an exit wound. I then found the pellet imbedded in the concrete fence so deep tha I had to use a rock to chisel it out. The force in which it hit the fence was clearly significant. Which means that the bird it passed through first hardly even effected it. I was using superpoints, but I am going to be switching to cromags soon to try to prevent this from happening in the future. |
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:34 am |
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Try some hollow points too! they deform like a tiny mushroom cloud when they impact on a rats head, but make sure your gun likes them before trying them out on living things.
I also have a rendered cinder block wall as my target backstop, now and again when the pellet impacts on the render it will mold itself onto it like it was glued on with superglue, I give up trying to chip them off of it now lol!
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 1:31 pm |
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| Rogerflat |
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| Crowmags are hollow points. Although the tip is more in the form of a cup rather than a drilled hole the way most hollow points look. And my gun hates them. I can hit the bulls with a pointer or dome, but when I load a crowmag, then my next shot is 3 inches off into a random direction. I'd love to see what a crowmag does to a bird though. Imagine it'd knock them into next week. |
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:58 pm |
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| AirGunEric |
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| Stop buying into the marketing BS- if the Crowmags don't shoot worth sh!t in your gun- try another hollow point pellet. |
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:42 pm |
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| StevieLaner7777 |
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| Rogerflat wrote: |
| Crowmags are hollow points. |
Oh right! I don't think they're called that in England sorry lol!
If your gun doesn't like them just give them to another Airgunning friend!
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:26 pm |
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| Rogerflat |
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| Yeah, but I just bought them cuz I heard they were good and they don't shoot for crap so I guess I'll know not to buy more. I found that a heavier pellet, even a dome, is just as good as a hallow point. In .177 calibre at least, they don't really "expand" as much as people say they should. They deform and create wider wound channels, but so do most other types of pellets. Those crowmages are shaped in such a way and are heavy enough that I feel like they could break open and create a larger wound chanel after impact, but that is provided you can get the damn things to hit the animal first! |
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:52 pm |
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| broommaster2000 |
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| I think simple streight to the point pellets will do best. Simple streight to the point things always do best. |
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