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Choking a Sringer barrel. 
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:22 am Reply with quote
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Does anyone know the amount of choke that is put into a barrel?
Lets say you have a non choked .22 cal. barrel that has a bore 0.22 of an inch diameter all the way thru,now you would like to choke it.How much would you reduce that stock barrel bore/dia. with out compromising the FPS/FPE of said barrel.
I am still messing with that Chinese .22 B2(B1).I did cut the barrel with a pipe cutter and it did choke the sh!t out of it,so much that I can watch the pellet in flight. I have it down to around .217/8 of an inch(way too much!!).However I can open the choke/dia. by increasing the depth of the crown.I am going to open it another.001 thousands of an inch today and see if it helps.
Just wondering if there is a proper undersize for choking.

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PS: Before I cut it it was putting them out @ around +700FPS.
and shooting very straight,now its all over the place and under 500FPS
damn I just can't leave well enough alone.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:02 pm Reply with quote
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I've read .0005" to .001" is the choke restriction most German makers use as a guideline, though without actual empirical evidence, this would mainly be hearsay. As I don't have air gauging test equipment, nor optical comparators to quantify the validity of this information, so I'll just say that '.004" or .005" probably ain't it' Wink

BSA on the otherhand, hammer forges thier barrels on tapered mandrels, which makes the whole bore the choke.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:27 pm Reply with quote
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i dont know about others but i can not see an under 500fps pellet until it gets to 200fps maybe

what does choking do?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:10 pm Reply with quote
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The outdoorsman wrote:
i dont know about others but i can not see an under 500fps pellet until it gets to 200fps maybe

what does choking do?


It is suppose to help with accuracy by giving the pellet a smaller hole to pass thru at the last moment before it exits the barrel.Basically it causes the skirt of the pellet to be forced against the lans of the rifling upon exit of the barrel.
This method is suppose to put more spin on the pellet while it is in flight which is what keeps a pellet from tumbling.
I am no ballastic expert but I know that the more spin you can create on a projectile the straighter it will go.I am sure others in this forum who are a lot smarter than I am can explain this a little better for you Mr.Outdoorsman.But I think you will get what I am saying by my unskilled explaination.

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PS I did open the choke another .001 today but got rained out for my next test.POOP! This is what it looks like after I cut 5" off the barrel.

Before Barrel length 19"

After Cutting barrel to 14"

I made two separate cuts one was a practice cut.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:51 pm Reply with quote
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Pretty soon Bob will get that barrel short enough that he'll be able to hide the gun in his pants! Razz

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:18 pm Reply with quote
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Eric,
To add to the over length and look I ordered a Muzzle Break off a Crosman Tac 1 Extreme .There only $5.00.
http://www.pyramydair.com/p/crosman-tac-1-extreme-air-rifle.shtml
It should look pretty cool when it is finished.Now if I can get to shoot correctly!!!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:11 am Reply with quote
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from what I understand on rifled guns is that as the pellet or bullet is accerating down the barrel, the choke helps to force the the skirt into the rifling, which stops the pellet from skipping the last few inches and just blasting its way out, and it becoming unstable.

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