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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:44 pm Reply with quote
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The new 880s are rifled. I looked at mine and it's rifled, but the condition is not great. Probably scrap, but for an old gun like yours I'd consider buying a new 880 at Walmart and just use it for parts. They are only like $45-ish. By the time you buy individual parts and shipping, you might be over that even with used stuff. That old gun you got is worth refurbishing right, IMO, with a new rifled barrel and seals. Paint and varnish. I wonder how much different inside parts are or if they're the same?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:20 pm Reply with quote
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That's kinda the thing, the internals are basically the same. but that being said, I have been told, by the few parts retailers that still have 880 parts, that certain components won't work from old to new 880s, and vice versa (barrel, exhaust valve, certain seals). Also, my barrel is not a press fit. Its more of a clamp/screw down attachment. (Dunno if they have changed much, but I have seen that some were press fit.)

That's why I'm trying to find a barrel that I can make fit. I have a machinist background and access to a lathe, but no mill... that kinda puts a limit on what I can and cannot do.

Also I found out the 22sg was discontinued, and I have no idea on where to buy the stock and forarm for it without spending 100$ on a whole rifle.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:40 am Reply with quote
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This just shows, I cut about a round and a half off the trigger spring. Also took trigger completely apart and filed some burrs on the trigger assembly.

crown and polished, can see where I put the #5 orings, this helps steady the barrel a bit better in the shroud.

completely disassembled, stripped and ready for paint

Are the pics decent? I don't have a computer, only have my phone so I can't really tell.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:15 am Reply with quote
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Yeah the pics are fine. Nice looking job!
I see what you mean. The internals do look like the same concept, for lack of a better word, but just different enough to call into question any interchangeability with new without modification.

I'm guessing the barrel of a new one could be made to fit, but who knows?

The 22SG seems to have been discontinued about a year, to a year-and-a-half ago. They were available new from PA when I joined this forum, but not long after that. I read on some forum that a dealer had about an 80% return rate for defects toward the end. I don't know if that's true or not, but the one I had needed the pump cylinder resealed almost right away for a leak. When it was put back together, I could never get accuracy out of it again, so I still don't know what I screwed up with that, because I've never had a problem with reassembling a 22X/880/901 pattern rifle with good results before that.

I would like to have a good working 22SG again for my collection. Daisy told me recently via email that they have no plans for bringing back any of their .22 caliber air rifles.

These guns tend to get thrown away or thrown into a closet and forgotten because of their low cost replacements, but probably someone, somewhere, will have an old 880 listed for sale eventually. Keep an eye on the gun trader sites.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:10 am Reply with quote
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Got an 880 in the shop as well with the smoothbore. Brother got it as a christmas present probably about the same time as your dads. We just use it for the occasinal sparrow that makes the mistake of getting inside. Use it for BB's only.

Had a 922 once upon a time and it was a real accurate gun but not very long range. Always wanted a 922 and a 917 with the wood stocks but didnt figure Id ever get it past the wife. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:02 am Reply with quote
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Never heard of a 922 until now. What is different from an 822/22SG? Surprised

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To be completely honest, I'm in the dark when it comes to 8** 9**.... so no help from me sorry

@radar: if its not to much to ask, could I get a picture of the 'breech'(?) end of the barrel you have, I might be able to tell if it would work (or be made to work).

Will probably have to make my own stock. I'm not much of a woodworker, any helpful hints?

*edit* just found out that a 922 stock or 22xx wil fit... anyone own or know anyting about that?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:56 am Reply with quote
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It looks just like the muzzle end to me. A chamfered blank end with some sealant on it. It just presses in. I probably put the sealant on myself. I don't remember now. It measures 0.298"-0.300" depending on where it's rotated. Slightly out of round.



Myxr wrote:
*edit* just found out that a 922 stock or 22xx wil fit... anyone own or know anyting about that?

I know they're hard to find... Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:27 pm Reply with quote
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radar wrote:
It looks just like the muzzle end to me. A chamfered blank end with some sealant on it. It just presses in. I probably put the sealant on myself. I don't remember now. It measures 0.298"-0.300" depending on where it's rotated. Slightly out of round.



Hmm, mine has a key cut into it, and a hole for the air from the exhaust port to pass thru.

Looks like they changed it just enough to screw everything up lol.

Going to be starting the trigger hammer mod tonight.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:59 pm Reply with quote
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Hmm, mine has a key cut into it, and a hole for the air from the exhaust port to pass thru...

Interesting. The old style barrels must have been long enough to reach back into, or become, the chamber.
The way this new style is set up is that the barrel presses into the cast metal valve body to meet up with the chamber. The hole for the barrel is stepped down to about the inside barrel diameter. So the transfer port for the air is entirely part of the casting just behind the barrel opening. No key in the barrel is needed, I suppose, because there is no hole in the barrel to have to line up with the air valve's transfer port.

You could probably make a hole and keyway in the new style barrels, but then it might be too short to reach all the way into the plastic centering cone fitted into the muzzle end of the sheet metal, outer barrel shroud...the painted "false barrel." If that were the case then the muzzle of the actual shot tube would obviously float around--and the pellets would fly all over the place.

Other options (if the new style barrel is too short would be to make short little a liner tube, with the key and hole, for the the chamber behind the barrel with the inside diameter a slightly loose fit for a .177 pellet.
Possibly easier--make a new centering cone or rely on a stack of additional o-rings to keep the shot tube muzzle end securely centered in the barrel shroud. You'd still need to make the transfer port and keyway in the breech end.

What a PITA...LOL.

Is this old barrel no good to reuse as is?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:06 pm Reply with quote
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radar wrote:
Is this old barrel no good to reuse as is?


Mine? Not that I know of, but then again I haven't shot it since resealing it. I'm used to actual firearm barrels, with rifling of course. And I figured since I have a pesky skunk (10-20#) likes to eat my compost, id need a little more range to stay outta his range, if you know what I mean.

Ill probably just end up putting mine back on if I can't find a suitable replcement, ill also probably hack up a wood stock from another airgun and figure out a way to mount it.
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