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Air Gun Home Forum Index » General Air Gun Questions and Topics » Airgun Hobbyist    View previous topic :: View next topic  Airgun Hobbyist   Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:29 pm Alstone Moderator & Site Supporter Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 4139 Location: Linconshire, ENGLAND I see that Airgun Hobbyist Magazine as folded which is a surprise considering it was the only airgun magazine published in the States. I would have thought that with the USA being one of the biggest users of airguns in the world, it would be able to support at least one airgun magazine, over here in the UK we do have three monthly air gun magazines on the go. Evidently the support just dwindled away, I guess they needed a large injection of cash to update the magazine and publish in colour which may have saved it. R.I.P. Al _________________   Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:52 pm ZipSnipe Veteran Member Joined: 09 Mar 2012 Posts: 327 Bad economy !!! I don't think airguns are as big of a deal over here as I would like to see them be. The Airsoft is much bigger than airguns. I was really surprise to learn that too. _________________ You can have tomorrow, I'll take yesterday !!!   Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:23 am mutus New Member Joined: 19 Aug 2012 Posts: 6 Location: Hertfordshire UK There certainly is plenty of monthly reading material for airgun enthusiasts here in the UK,which I really appreciate. _________________ happily waiting   Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:53 am robert w Senior Member Joined: 12 Feb 2012 Posts: 574 Location: usa i get airgun world on my pc . england does have some great air gun magazines . hard to find here in usa so i got them on my pc ... guess i went green yaahoo savin the planet 1 small step at a time haha _________________ ,crosman 400,gamo big cat in .22, diana 5g,diana 54 air king, diana 34 in .22 diana 34 in .177, wilrauch hw-55,and a romainian pioner training rifle , and a huge collection of powder burners 35 last count . 1 would think i have a gun store Airgun Hobbyist Magazine   Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:54 pm TiminNC New Member Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Posts: 1 Airgun Hobbyist Magazine is not out of business. Check Their FaceBook Page. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Airgun-Hobby-Magazine/157568947610893   Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:41 am Alstone Moderator & Site Supporter Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 4139 Location: Linconshire, ENGLAND I picked it up on one of the airgun sites, I think it was attributed to Dave the Administrator of the GTA site, but it was reported on other sites as well. If this is not true then that is good news and I’m glad it’s still going. Al _________________   Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:47 am Alstone Moderator & Site Supporter Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 4139 Location: Linconshire, ENGLAND I didn't see the original story it was repeated on another forum. But I have managed to track down the original GTA article. It doesn’t take much for a false story to run and run and run on the internet forever. Al Last edited by Alstone on Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:11 pm; edited 1 time in total _________________   Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 2:09 pm AirGunEric Site Admin Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 6929 Location: "Out There" The internet is a wonderful place for fiction to start. What is really bothering me lately is this "11mm dovetail" BS- a couple US vendors who don't know how to convert Standard/Imperial to Metric started calling 3/8" dovetail rails "11mm" (3/8" is actually 9.51mm) and now far too many people are walking around asking "do I need an 11mm dovetail mount, or 3/8?". _________________ ` I'd say "I care." But I'd be lying. Canadian Airgun Supplier: http://www.scopesandammo.com/storefront   Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 5:40 pm Alstone Moderator & Site Supporter Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 4139 Location: Linconshire, ENGLAND I think the confusion comes from the way the rail is measured the throat is 3/8” and the top width is 7/16, but since the metric system has come in and lots of imports from metric using countries, it’s been bastardised to 9.5mm to 11mm, and on top of that the dealers don’t know which to use, the throat or top width so they say it fits 9.5 to 11mm rails, which gives the impression that there is a variety of rail sizes. Al _________________   Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:05 pm robert w Senior Member Joined: 12 Feb 2012 Posts: 574 Location: usa i just remembered i got them bookmarked and have them on facebook so they are still alive _________________ ,crosman 400,gamo big cat in .22, diana 5g,diana 54 air king, diana 34 in .22 diana 34 in .177, wilrauch hw-55,and a romainian pioner training rifle , and a huge collection of powder burners 35 last count . 1 would think i have a gun store   Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:00 am AirGunEric Site Admin Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 6929 Location: "Out There" Alstone wrote: I think the confusion comes from the way the rail is measured the throat is 3/8” and the top width is 7/16, but since the metric system has come in and lots of imports from metric using countries, it’s been bastardised to 9.5mm to 11mm, and on top of that the dealers don’t know which to use, the throat or top width so they say it fits 9.5 to 11mm rails, which gives the impression that there is a variety of rail sizes. Al I see what you're saying Al- the problem is most vendors are not even saying "9.5 to 11mm"- they are simply labeling them as "11mm"- so someone sees 3/8" dovetail, then 11mm dovetail, then 20mm (Weaver/Picatinny)- sometimes without even the 'dovetail' or 'Weaver' mentioned, and all bets are off. The last month I have been having this question asked of me more and more (approximately 6 times in 3 weeks, whereas before that I think it was 3 times in 6 months)- so it's obviously causing increased amounts of confusion. I actually wrote an email to the Sales Manager at PyramydAir earlier pointing this out and asking if they might be nice enough to stop publishing this sort of incorrect rubbish... _________________ ` I'd say "I care." But I'd be lying. Canadian Airgun Supplier: http://www.scopesandammo.com/storefront   Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:36 pm Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA Just for fun, I measured some of the guns I had at hand. (These are all "top width.") CZ Slavia 631 - 13.16mm Crosman G1 - 11.51mm Mendoza (Crosman) RM577 - 10.59mm Industry B3 - 11.69mm Crosman Titan - 12.37mm Crosman 66 - 13.14mm Avanti 853 - 12.31mm Marksman 2004 - 11.91mm Gaylord in the Pyramydair blog says he wasn't able to scope his Slavia until the advent of some fancy new mount, because the nominal 11mm dovetail actually measured 14mm. http://airgun-academy.pyramydair.com/blog/tag/slavia-631/ My Slavia has had 3/8" rings from Cabela's for a decade. Not only that, but the scope block is made from a Walmart clearance ring - also 3/8." I didn't have anyone to tell me that they wouldn't fit, so I went ahead and put them on. Sure, if I zero at 25 yards I might be off by a millimeter or two at 50 yards, but I can't shoot well enough to tell. I can see how people could get confused - maybe I was better off not knowing anything back then. Here's what the experts were saying two years ago: http://www.airgunhome.com/agforum/viewtopic.php?p=55538 _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:46 pm AirGunEric Site Admin Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 6929 Location: "Out There" Dang you! I was hoping no-one was going to bring that up- the Slavia-rifle rail is what started this whole "European" dovetail idea way back when, and I got sucked up into it somewhat as well- started convincing myself there must be other European guns with "11mm" dovetails and 'finding' them where they didn't exist (i.e. as per Slavia's top width measurements). Somewhere along the way, I figured out it was all BS- perhaps this is why I find it so damn distasteful- I was also bullsh!tted, and apparently helping to further the BS on this for far too long. _________________ ` I'd say "I care." But I'd be lying. Canadian Airgun Supplier: http://www.scopesandammo.com/storefront   Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:17 am broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands Hey now, I could have had something to say about this but everything has already been said. _________________ BIG GAP Airgun Hobbyist     Air Gun Home Forum Index » General Air Gun Questions and Topics You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum All times are GMT - 5 Hours   Page 1 of 1   All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First  Select a forum Main Forums----------------AirGunHome Q&AGeneral Air Gun Questions and TopicsPicture GalleryTarget Shooting: Casual, Fun and CompetitionHunting, Pest Control, Varminting People/Events/Airgun Issue Discussion----------------Introduce YourselfThe BS TopicClubs/Events/Regional/Political Airgun Issues Maintenance, Modification and Reviews----------------RiflesPistolsAntique, Collector and Novelty AirgunsBB GunsPellets/AmmoOpticsAccessoriesAirgun Smithing Buy, Sell or Trade Forums----------------For SaleWant to Buy   Note: If you are seeing "Please enter your username and password to log in." 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