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SMP · Silver Status Member

Agreed Al

Crosman pellets are considerably harder than most of the others. I actually took the time to measure a few on a rockwell gauge awhile ago. Can't remember the numbers but it's a fair bit.

So we can assume they are alloyed which leaves a few possible suspects
tin
antimony
silver

silver is obviously out
tin would increase the brittleness

So I'd say antimony is a pretty safe bet

Jeremy · Veteran Member

again thanks guys for the help.

Another question kind of related to my other, I have some daisy pellets that work great in my guns but the only problem I find is that they are dirty. After washing them in some warm soapy water and letting the dry should they be coated with anything? or just leave them as is I see that napier power pellet lube but it looks kind of expensive for a small bottle? again this is kind of related to my above question, better then starting a new thread right Mr. Green

thanks again for all the help, id be lost if it wasnt for you guys Smile

SMP · Silver Status Member

That dirtiness is just powdered graphite. Daisy and a lot of Chinese pellet manufacturers use it.

The little bottles look expensive but apparently you use one drop in a tin of pellets then tumble to distribute evenly and thinly.

I think you put the drop in the bottom of an empty tin. swirl it around then add pellets

Jeremy · Veteran Member

Yeah Sean I am still thinking about a bottle, all I can find for dealers here in Ontario is the spray and not the liquid.

Jeremy · Veteran Member

Hi Guys

I found the stuff that SMP was talking about a few days ago and am happy with some of the results. I took a pellet and put a drop of on a paper towel and rubbed it on the pellet. It stayed wet for only a few minutes then dried to the touch, it was very slippery while wet. So yesterday I looked at the pellet again and the film it made was invisible on the pellet and no greasy feeling at all. The only thing is I dont know after thousands of rounds this will do to the rifling in the barrel? maybe it will cause it to have a waxy buildup? I dont know, probably nothing that windex would be able to breakup? But I think it would be great to slowdown the effects of oxidation. Here is a pic of the stuff. I got it in a spray also but I used the liquid.

Jeremy · Veteran Member

well back with a update.

The pellet has been sitting out on the workbench now for getting close to 3 months. And looking at the pellet that was coated and the pellet that wasn't coated in the wax liquid and I see no real difference,lol. They still both look the same. So I guess modern day pellets don't oxide all that quick with or without treatment.

As a side note I also have had a crosman wadcutter pellet sitting out since then and it, like the RWS pellet has shown no signs of oxidation.

Oh well, I will let them keep sitting here to see what happens over the course of the year.

BennyProfane · New Member

I'm new but I want to add a couple things I've noticed just in case it helps someone:

If you have oxidized pellets, you can soak them in muriatic acid (at the hardware store, also known as hydrochloric acid) for just a minute or so, and them rinse and tumble the pellets a bit (or wipe them off with a fuzzy cloth or what have you) and the oxidization comes right off.

I need to find the Daisy pellets I tested it out with. As I'm sure many people know, Daisy pellets are kind of crap, and are usually fully oxidized before they ever reach you. well I used this technique on some daisy pellets and they look like silver.

Slavia · Moderator

Same stuff I use to remove the galvanizing from hardware store steel prior to blueing. Definitely use gloves and goggles, and especially have good ventilation (like do it outdoors). The fumes will choke a maggot.

BennyProfane · New Member

You ain't kidding! Nasty stuff but it does the job. Might want to keep a baking soda solution nearby as water doesn't work quite as well. If you do use water, make sure it's COLD - hot water will open up your pores and let the acid soak in.

Does the job though. in my experience it takes a long time for pellets to oxidize too.

Jeremy · Veteran Member

burl · Member

they put graphite power on pellets so they don't oxidize if you look at you fingers you see it on your fingers.

burl · Member

http://airgun-academy.pyramydair.com/video/category/pellets/

watch this video

Jeremy · Veteran Member

Big bump

I happen to remember today those two pellets that I put on a back of a shelf almost a year now. I got them down to take a look at the pellet that was treated with the wax and the one that wasn't and the conclusion....

They both look the same as they did before,lol. So I guess it does take a very long time for a pellet to oxidize.