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Sporter · New Member

I purchased a Remington NPSS .22 two weeks ago after reading some good reports. It got much quieter after the 100 round break in just like remington said, but the accuracy still isn't that great and the piston seems to bind sometimes when I cock it. It did this both during the 100 round break in and afterwards. I wonder if there is an issue with the rifle? Also, when the rifle is in the full break open position the barrel has side to side play in it. Is this normal? My son has a much less expensive rifle that doesn't have this play in it. Any ideas?

domer_pyle · Senior Member

Take the action out of the stock and remove the barrel hinge screw. Use rubbing alcohol to get the grease out of the threads of the hole and screw and put some BLUE loc-tite on the threads and tighten it up really well, tthem wait a day. You can but or make metal washers to replace the plastic ones too.

Make sure to loc-tite the stock screws too. If you're still not getting nice tight groups then check the scope screws. Hope that helps!

radar · Silver Status Member

What domer said.
If the gun is cocked and the barrel is then unlatched, the barrel should stay put and not sag open from gravity.

Also, new airguns tend to blow a lot of burnt factory lubricant residue down the barrel. It needs gently cleaned (preferably) before shooting it, but especially after 100 rounds or so, and from then on whenever accuracy begins to fall off. Most guys use Goo Gone (I use WD-40 and then dry the barrel). Don't use the bronze brush in the cleaning kits unless you have to because airgun barrels are softer steel than firearm barrels. You can use it if you have to, but not too often; cloth patches usually do the job. Dry the barrel, and then shoot 10-15 of the pellets you are going to use before trying for the target grouping. The barrel usually needs "conditioned" this way with your chosen pellets before you can expect accuracy. If you switch pellets, you have to do it again.

AirGunEric · Site Admin

Of course, the other choice is to send it back and (hopefully) get one that has not got loose bushings in the barrel block to start with- sometimes they get away from the factory with these issues- no need to "subsidize" the less-than-perfect Crosman QC process by fixing it yourself- unless you are inclined to clean it all up, deburr, etc. anyways.

radar · Silver Status Member

^^^
Good point. On principle I should always do this myself, but I am not patient to wait for another delivery if it is an easy fix.
Defects should cost companies more than cheap, shoddy manufacture and only consumers can make this happen.

mtsheron · Member

but when I spoke to a airgun tech at PA they stated they owned both and preferred the Benji Trail better, reason why I got the Trail. Not sure as to why he never elaborated on the point. Play in the barrel at full cock.......I'd say not a good thing. As far as seating the stock screws and rear trigger housing screw......like domer stated, loc-tite with the blue version which is reversible. I always take all new rifles I get and break down and wipe clean then use loc-tite for sure. If you have a loose or even slightly where you can't feel to the touch in a single cock style gun like this it is enough to throw your rounds off for sure. Just like fliers all over the place!

If it is warranted send it back if you don't feel mechanically inclined to do this yourself.

Good luck.

Forgot to add..............if your shooting this gun scoped use loc-tite on the scope mounts too!

Sporter · New Member

Thanks for all of the great feedback. I did take the action out and tighten the hinge pin screw. It was quite loose. Unfortunately, it changed the point of impact on my scope by over 8" at 30 yds. And, it still shoots 2" groups at 30 yds. Being new to airguns this seems a bit unacceptable. Perhaps I shouls just send it back and start over.

radar · Silver Status Member

You just now cleaned the barrel and reconditioned it to your pellets, right?
And you're holding it as loosely as possible while still maintaining control and not pulling it firmly into your shoulder? (So is can recoil freely until after the follow through.)
If yes, and yes, I'd consider sending it back.

HTH

Sporter · New Member

I did run about 20 rounds through it after I cleaned the barrel. Not sure if that was enough. I'm going to shoot it a bit more to see if it settles in before I send it back. Just curious, what type of grouping can I expect at 30yds? I know it depends on the pellets too. Right now, I'm using the Crossman Premier series.

SMP · Silver Status Member

IMO in all honesty given the factors in this case a 2"/30yd group isn't all that bad. I base this on these three main reasons
1)Your new to the peculiar aspects of springers
2)The rifle is still relatively unseasoned
3)You haven't experimented with a wide variety of ammo

Simple scope parallax, cheek weld, eye relief issues could account for an 1" at that distance.

I would humbly suggest that your doing great so far.

Try the following
1) With the rifle on target move your head around and check to see if the image moves in relation to the crosshair. If it does you have some parallax issues
2)Work on the hold. Generally a gentle grip that is identical everytime.....But some really like to be pulled hard into the shoulder with almost no weight on the forearm.
3) Try a lot of different pellets. JSB should give you early successes
4) Put several thousand rds downrange while working on 1, 2 and 3 Mr. Green

I did a lot of work with a similar platform about a year ago

http://www.airgunhome.com/agforum/viewtopic.php?t=6645&highlight=

mtsheron · Member

Sporter · New Member

Thanks again to everyone for the great feedback. I will continue to season the rifle and experiment with different pellets. I did purchase some JSB Diablo pellets to try as well.

All of my shooting has been outside with some wind. Perhaps that is the problem. I am new to airguns, but have been shooting long range centerfires for years. It's hard to beleive that wind could be a factor at 20 - 30 yds, but then again we are talking about a significant difference in bullet mass.

Great learnings and I appreciate the help.

AirGunEric · Site Admin

Wind is absolutely a factor with pellets- at any range.

I might suggest that looking for problems with the tool is getting you nowhere at this point- determine how to work with the shooting conditions (wind) and the gun (dual recoil) and I'm sure you can get things to improve.

As no one has mentioned it- spring-powered airguns are alot more skill-intensive to shoot than any centerfire rifle- if you master it, you will be a far far better centerfire shooter as a result/as well.

Just use the rifle and figure out where you are going wrong before blaming the tool- once you have mastered shooting with a new setup and if the groups are still not what you would like, then it would be time to look for problems (or the limitations of) the gun.

Slavia · Moderator

SMP · Silver Status Member

And those blasted wind funnels Going Nuts