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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:23 pm Reply with quote
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I'm getting a 80 cu.ft. scuba tank rated @ 4500 psi. I'd like to know how many times it can fill a 180cc reservoir to 195 bar from 100 bar. I'm getting confused as a SOB trying to figure this out Confused
So to anyone out there, HELLLLLLP. Going Nuts Going Nuts Going Nuts Going Nuts Going Nuts
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:14 pm Reply with quote
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Try this handy dandy calc

http://calc.sikes.us/2/

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:19 pm Reply with quote
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I got 60 fills with your set up

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:24 pm Reply with quote
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Thanks for the link Very Happy . That calc says I can get 44 fills off of that tank Shocked Shocked Shocked Do you think that sounds about right?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:57 pm Reply with quote
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no using your numbers I'm getting different numbers
80 CF (most 4500psi tanks are 88CU)
100Bar=1450 psi
195 Bar = 2828psi (I used 190 bar in my first calc)
Using those numbers I get 54 fills

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:13 pm Reply with quote
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I get 49 fills both from that calc and from crunching the numbers in a spreadsheet.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:33 pm Reply with quote
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Agreed that's what I get when I use 80CuF for tank volume.

Mod check the volume on that 4500 tank. Carbon fiber?

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:31 pm Reply with quote
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Not carbon, but built for deep exploratory diving, the steel is approx 3/4 inch thick. Or so the supplier tells me. Haven't bought it yet, but I really got to look closely at it. But if those numbers are relatively accurate, one could do a lot of shooting before recharging the tank.
I'm prayig that both the tank and those numbers are accurate.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:40 pm Reply with quote
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Shocked 3/4" thick....OMG Sign yourself up for the hernia Op now Laughing

Ya thats a lot of shooting

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I got no plans to lift that sucker if i take it. I'm gonna roll it wherever it's gotta go. provided I can lift it out the car when I get it home Laughing
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I checked the dive shop owner,& it turns out he also has a pair of 60 cu. ft. 4500 psi tanks up for sale. So I'm going with that instead, picking them up tomorrow. Should be a little easier to lug around.
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those are nice size tanks. we use those on scba

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BTW, anyone know where I can find a DIN valve adapter w/cable for the AT44-10?
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When you say DIN type do you mean a 'K" type which uses a yoke and a clamping screw.

or a "J" type which has screw on threads

....both are actually DIN type....agreed it makes it confusing Smile

I assume the hatsan uses a "foster" fitting to fill so thats easy


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:23 am Reply with quote
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'J" type

http://wop.pyramydair.com/s/a/Scuba_charging_kit_DIN_valve/2950

"K" type

http://scopesandammo.com/storefront/product_info.php/scuba-fill-yokescuba-fill-station-p-331

Where are you ordering from Mod?

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