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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:43 am |
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| I'd like to be able to dispatch ground squirrels at up to maybe 50 yards. I currently own a Beeman R7. I've been eyeing the Gamo whisper deluxe, but now I'm wondering if I'd be ahead to put a scope on the Beeman. I assume the scope on the Gamo must be sort of cheap and may have to be replaced anyway. What do you think? |
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:38 am |
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| domer_pyle |
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| NO! BAD! Step away from the Gamo! Especially if you have a Beeman. That's a big step down. RWS makes a couple guns that would do the trick for you. Hell, Benjamin's latest offerings to the springer and PCP world are right up your alley as well |
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:53 am |
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| How much power do you need to take down a squirrel? Because if it's about 12 Fpe you're good to go with that Beeman. |
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:02 pm |
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The squirrels are little. These are Arizona ground squirrels, maybe 6-8" long and skinny. Doesn't take much to take them out.
So the Gamo is junky compared to the Beeman? People seem to like the Gamo, but maybe they've never had a nice gun before either...
Any recommendations for a good scope? Also, my R7 is about 25 years old. Anything I should be thinking about maintenance wise to keep it going? It seems to be grouping well, but there must be some seals in there someplace that are getting tired.
Thanks for the help. |
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:20 pm |
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| Stay away from the Gamo!! They are crap! I have the Whisper and it was a total waste of money. The Dampener doesnt work, and it is hard to group. Also, yes the scope are Crap as well. I bought 2 and the Crosshairs broke cracked! |
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:41 pm |
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Man, Gamo takes a bad beating around here LOL
I don't have a lot of experience with pellet guns, but I can shoot 1" groups all day long with my Gamo Big Cat at 35 yards and I make ground squirrel kills at 50+ yards on a regular basis.
Gamo Ammo is probably the absolute worst of any brand I have ever tried so I switched to Predators, but I just don't have any issues with the rifle itself even after a couple thousand rounds. I guess I am just lucky... |
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:18 pm |
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| no but gamo is like a "kia" where beeman r line are like a bmw then you have like the AA TX200 which is like the rolls royce |
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:22 pm |
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| Well when I wear this Gamo out I will definitely upgrade to something better, but so far with my limited experience in getting to shoot other brands the Big Cat is every bit as accurate as the others if not more so, but it is also noticeably clunkier when you pull the trigger. It makes a lot noises & vibrations that the others don't... |
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:24 pm |
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| thats all its is the gamo big cat is an amazing starter gun, you will see when you start buying more stuff you will realize is all, even with bsa there are much nicer guns in that category that are cheaper or the same price |
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:51 pm |
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| Even though it's a shame to admit, I was crazy about my BC after I first got it. It is a very accurate gun for the money but even shooting a Quest felt like a big step up in overall quality/solidness, and that's $30-40 cheaper! The BC just feels and sounds like a toy |
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:27 pm |
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I have four of them.
First three where bought when I first got into adult airguns. Two S1k in .177 cal and a custom S1k with a .22 barrel.
When the Gamo Whisper came out with a gas ram, I picked one up in 22 cal.
Now for the truth. That Whisper was a piece of dog do. Had to put a new trigger in it because after about 20 shots your trigger finger would be bruised. After the new trigger the Whisper still wouldn’t group below inch at 30 yards.
The Whisper was no quieter than the old s1ks and had just as rough shooting cyclical. I have shot less than 400 pellets threw the thing in the three years that I have had it.
The good thing about that whisper was it pushed me into the dark side. And I don’t mean into the grey side of the dark side, I mean deep down where go light shines.
PCPs are all I’ll buy now and shoot.
So, like just about everybody else who have posted here, I thing Gamo’s are junk.  |
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:31 am |
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Now, all the Gamo hating is appropriate, BUT, with a good trigger and gas ram, they can be pretty good springers. Mind you, you don't wanna buy them new.
It won't compare to a Weihrauch. That R7 will do the job nicely, I'm sure.
Gamo/BSA scopes are affordable and pretty good. So you could have a look at them. |
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:01 am |
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| If you wanna push out to the 50 you'd be well advised to get a scope that says AO after the size/mag numbers, to eliminate parallax error. I got 2 Leapers UTG 4x32AO with caps and Weaver mounts shipped from Amazon for 72 bucks including shipping. You can get some good deals if you look around |
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:29 am |
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| broommaster2000 wrote: |
Now, all the Gamo hating is appropriate, BUT, with a good trigger and gas ram, they can be pretty good springers. Mind you, you don't wanna buy them new.
It won't compare to a Weihrauch. That R7 will do the job nicely, I'm sure.
Gamo/BSA scopes are affordable and pretty good. So you could have a look at them. |
Yes, what Broom said is true. Gamo is a good gun after they are “fixed up”. All three of my s1ks are tuned and I have spent more on tunes than the guns cost but they are fair shooters now.
Now days after gamo guns have double in price, it’s not as cost effective (to me) to spend another 150 plus bucks to have it tuned.
However if someone is just want a pellet gun to shoot pest once in a while and leaves it propped up by the back door, than a gamo will do the job. |
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