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| broommaster2000 |
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| Jazzpaintball wrote: |
Some of the things I would like to know are things like:
Number made?
Around what year was it made? From the looks of it 50's to maybe early to mid 70's.
Is there a (English) manual anywhere? I am afraid not.
Is there a break down diagram for extensive cleaning/maintenance? Mostly these are included in the manual. Maybe send these guys an E-mail? http://www.gunspares.co.uk/
Is there any way to repair it if something breaks? Replication.
Value of the rifle? Depends on how obsessed the buyer is.
Is there anyway to take out the travel within the trigger? If you want to take the risk and are confident enough, probably. Maybe there's an adjustment screw?
These are some of the questions I would love answered.
Thank you again
Travis Walthall |
Let me ask around on the Dutch forum. It's located on the, in this case, right side of the ocean. 
After some inquiring:
.177, 17.7", rifled barrel, blue finish, precision diopter (match aperture sight)match styled stock with carved gip cap, marked on the barrel 'Tournier 53', plus a large Austrian Eagle logo enclosing a large stylized letter 'M' on top of receiver, and 'MADE IN AUSTRIA' and serial number on LH side of barrel block, no safety, 9.6 lbs.
Which you probably already found yourself.
Maybe there are some collectors who know? |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:00 pm |
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| Jazzpaintball |
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| broommaster2000 wrote: |
| Jazzpaintball wrote: |
Some of the things I would like to know are things like:
Number made?
Around what year was it made? From the looks of it 50's to maybe early to mid 70's.
Is there a (English) manual anywhere? I am afraid not.
Is there a break down diagram for extensive cleaning/maintenance? Mostly these are included in the manual. Maybe send these guys an E-mail? http://www.gunspares.co.uk/
Is there any way to repair it if something breaks? Replication.
Value of the rifle? Depends on how obsessed the buyer is.
Is there anyway to take out the travel within the trigger? If you want to take the risk and are confident enough, probably. Maybe there's an adjustment screw?
These are some of the questions I would love answered.
Thank you again
Travis Walthall |
Let me ask around on the Dutch forum. It's located on the, in this case, right side of the ocean.
After some inquiring:
.177, 17.7", rifled barrel, blue finish, precision diopter (match aperture sight)match styled stock with carved gip cap, marked on the barrel 'Tournier 53', plus a large Austrian Eagle logo enclosing a large stylized letter 'M' on top of receiver, and 'MADE IN AUSTRIA' and serial number on LH side of barrel block, no safety, 9.6 lbs.
Which you probably already found yourself.
Maybe there are some collectors who know? |
Thats the greatest amount of info that I have ever gotten about it. Thank you. I had gotten this air rifle from my grandfather. He had gotten it while he was stationed in Germany (in the 50's). I dont know if he got it new or not. I remember him saying he got it for small bore competition shooting for it was more accurate at 50 yards and closer than any .22LR at the time. Thusly, he would use it in the .22 competitions and would usually place high.
I know first hand it is very accurate. I would hate to know what it could do with a decent scope, but I cant bear to take off the fantastic matching peep-sight setup.
Thank you again to everyone that has helped,
Travis Walthall |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:12 am |
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Wow that bit of info helped a bit too. Does it really have a smooth bore?  |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:38 am |
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| Jazzpaintball |
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| broommaster2000 wrote: |
| Wow that bit of info helped a bit too. Does it really have a smooth bore? |
If by a smooth bore you mean that there is no rifling, then no.
It does have rifling, but it very shallow. It looks like about 14 total groves, with a relatively fast twist for the weight of the pellets, looks like a 1-12 or so. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:21 am |
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Ah, so it's not a smooth bore. Airgun rifling is often shallow. You could have a look at the pellets you shot.
Smooth bore .22 is often used to shoot steel darts, as steel will damage rifling. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:49 am |
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| broommaster2000 wrote: |
Ah, so it's not a smooth bore. Airgun rifling is often shallow. You could have a look at the pellets you shot.
Smooth bore .22 is often used to shoot steel darts, as steel will damage rifling. |
The pellets I shoot are nearly as old as the rifle, but all of them are lead. One of the tins still has a date sticker on it of 5-14-67. The other two tins I have probably been made around the late 70's. The funny thing is that the old can (67) shoot the best out of any pellet I have tried. Although I have to admit I have not tried many pellet brands. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:03 am |
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Hm, maybe nice to put some good wadcutters trough it. 
Woops, the reason why you wanna look at the pellets, after you shot them, is to see if the rifle left dents in the skirt. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:48 pm |
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| broommaster2000 wrote: |
Hm, maybe nice to put some good wadcutters trough it.
Woops, the reason why you wanna look at the pellets, after you shot them, is to see if the rifle left dents in the skirt. |
from the couple I have found (after some bunny hunting) that the skirts are fairly intact, but I will watch more closely for that imperfection. |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:46 am |
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| Jazzpaintball wrote: |
| broommaster2000 wrote: |
Hm, maybe nice to put some good wadcutters trough it.
Woops, the reason why you wanna look at the pellets, after you shot them, is to see if the rifle left dents in the skirt. |
from the couple I have found (after some bunny hunting) that the skirts are fairly intact, but I will watch more closely for that imperfection. |
Well, it's the same with bullets from burners, so I wouldn't call it imperfection. |
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