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Alstone · Moderator & Site Supporter

I just had an e-mail asking if I would make and supply a silencer to a guy in Hawaii, am I right in thinking that it's part of the USA and comes under their gun laws?

Al

AirGunEric · Site Admin

It is a federal law- so it applies to Hawaii. If the guy has the proper permit, OK, otherwise he's asking you for something he shouldn't.

If you want to check or refer the person to the appropriate governing legislation/body, it's the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF): http://www.atf.gov/

Slavia · Moderator

Alstone · Moderator & Site Supporter

Paulius1981 · Member

Just out of interest, are silencers for airguns covered by the same laws for firearms?

oddtodd · Silver Status Member

Any kind of silencer that can be removed and put on a firearm, (note I said removed. This means any kind of removal, such as sawing it off and putting on on a firearm which includes welding and any other way) is illegal. Period. End of sentence. Go to jail like forever kind of illegal. THat's why I don't have a gamo whisper. Knowing my luck I would be the poor barsturd who got prosecuted.

AirGunEric · Site Admin

It seems like all the airgun manufacturers are playing some sort of "nudge nudge wink wink" game with the BATF- but someday someone's gonna get f#&ked- wonder who it will be. Probably whichever company pisses off a BATF inspector the most...

sniper · Silver Status Member

Dust · Member

I think the way around this, is the use on a firearm. I know that firearms are much more powerful than airguns,and I think that my LDC would probably take out an eye, or a 10 yard target if I tried to stick it on a firearm.

donec · Senior Member

Dust · Member

But the ATF is a federal bereau. And federal law doesn't say that airguns are firearms. All of Michigan is the same as P-ville.

Mark5043 · Silver Status Member

Paulius1981 · Member

well, a silencer is almost useless on any gun with supersonic rounds. With smallbore weapons with relatively small powder charges, the sonic boom of the bullet breaking the sound barrier can be louder than the actual muzzle report.

In fact, when I first got my Storm XT home, the first few shots dieseled thanks to too much factory lube and sent the pellet past the sound barrier. Those first two shots were as noisy, if not slightly noisier than my Remington 597.

Mark5043 · Silver Status Member

donwalk · Veteran Member

most of, if not all, the paranoid legislation pertaining to firearms, use, ownership and possession is there because WE have allowed legislators to get away with passing them...it's that simple folks...

today may be another landmark in gun ownership/possession, too...the supreme court will decide on the ban of handguns in Chicago being 'legal' or not.

you may rest assured that if the ruling goes in favor of the gun owners, the city will probably draw up some very draconian other ordinances to replace the ban. (they probably have some in waiting, just in case)

governmental entities do NOT like being told they're wrong! especially by the courts as they feel as though, for some reason, they believe they cannot be wrong.

the ONLY answer is to remove those who enact such laws from office...vote them OUT or don't vote for them until you know their stand on gun rights and the 2nd amendment...it's that simple.