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Air Gun Home Forum Index » General Air Gun Questions and Topics » what to get Goto page Previous  1, 2    View previous topic :: View next topic    Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:56 am gargoyle3 Member Joined: 04 Feb 2010 Posts: 45 Location: GTA,On,Canada http://www.airgunhome.com/agforum/viewtopic.php?t=3738 _________________ .......__________________________ ....../'---__________--__________l] - > ...../_==o;;;;;;;________.:/ ......),--(_(__)/ .....),--(..)), ...//___// ..//___// .//___/   Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:02 am Jaxom Senior Member Joined: 06 Aug 2008 Posts: 927 fur, Again, don't fall for the feet per second bs. It's a matter of feet pounds of energy (on target), that will get you game. For your price range of less then $300, I would still adimently recommend the benjamin discovery. Either in .177 or .22. Both will get you squirrels and rabbits. The .22, within range will get slightly bigger game. Modifed to .25cal even bigger. With more stopping power. _________________ .22 2300kt Crosman Custom   Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:09 pm donec Senior Member Joined: 19 Dec 2009 Posts: 836 Location: central Texas Pflugerville area Jaxom wrote: Don, Sorry, guess I was reading too fast, you didn't mention which model. My bad! No problem as in another post I did call the Disco a pump by mistake when I knew it wasn't because I meant the 397. I was corrected and fixed my post. We all make mistakes so it is good to have one an other watching out for mistakes so newbies don't get bad info.   Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:48 pm fur8963 New Member Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 8 im lookin to put a reg scope on it, how do it find out the downrange force on a air rifle, and how do you modify them? is there like a book i can get   Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:23 pm Jaxom Senior Member Joined: 06 Aug 2008 Posts: 927 No books that I know of, alot of the modifications and tuning, you can read about in these forums. To really get an idea on what what your pellets are doing at range, you need to invest in a chronograph. That's not to say that you NEED one, in order to hunt with. There's plenty of good ag's that don't need any mods or tunes and are good to go right out of the box. I can only related to those ag's that I have had experience with, that being my 1077, 2300 and now my discovery. Other's can give advice on what they've used. _________________ .22 2300kt Crosman Custom   Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:07 pm sniper Silver Status Member Joined: 28 Nov 2008 Posts: 3752 Location: Star, Idaho fur8963 wrote: im lookin to put a reg scope on it, how do it find out the downrange force on a air rifle, and how do you modify them? is there like a book i can get this thread is a little scattered IMO. a medium springer in either caliber -13-16 fpe will get you squirrel out to 40-50 yards-max. (.177/.22) a magnum springer will get you another 20 yards. the higher power you get in a springer the heavier the recoil- the harder it will be on a scope. plus the guns are HUGE. springers in either power range can be had under $300. i have several guns in both calibers but am partial to .22. a pumper such as the benji 392 is $150 and around 14 fpe. that is a lot of pumping. co2 is only for birds(unless it's power modded) you can jump into pcp which-there is a lot to know and you will need a good amount of $$$$$. my advice is to buy a good springer in .22 with a good scope. you want one that will throw a 14.3 grain pellet in the high 600'sfps. this will mean a rifle advetised at over 800fps the ad is always minimum 100 fps higher. i have chrony'd every airgun i own. so, which ones are you looking at? _________________ I believe in gun control, If there's a gun around I want to be controlling it.......   Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:13 pm fur8963 New Member Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 8 sniper what kind of springers do you have. i have shot alot of them and they just make me mad cause i cant sight them in even after alot alot of shooting. like im talking i have put 500 pellets through my beeman and quest on days trying to sight them in and there is just no consitency with them   Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:26 pm sniper Silver Status Member Joined: 28 Nov 2008 Posts: 3752 Location: Star, Idaho fur8963 wrote: sniper what kind of springers do you have. i have shot alot of them and they just make me mad cause i cant sight them in even after alot alot of shooting. like im talking i have put 500 pellets through my beeman and quest on days trying to sight them in and there is just no consitency with them i have a gamo 440 .177 a b-26 .22 a tech forcre 89 .22 a storm xt. .177 what scopes are you using? which guns do you have? i took the factory scope off my storm (which i bought used) but it on my b-26 and it's dead on. it's a cheap scope too. sounds like it might be your "hold" and not the guns. _________________ I believe in gun control, If there's a gun around I want to be controlling it.......   Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:26 pm fur8963 New Member Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 8 i have the crossman quest, gamo bigcat, beeman "aint to sure of what brand it is the one that comes with two barrels all .177 and the beeman second barrel in .22 .......i am resting the gun on a sand bag? i just saw on amercian airgunner that i need to hold it lighter in my hands but i didnt think that could make that much of a diff. and the scopes i am using are the ones that come with the kit   Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:33 pm donec Senior Member Joined: 19 Dec 2009 Posts: 836 Location: central Texas Pflugerville area fur8963 wrote: i have the crossman quest, gamo bigcat, beeman "aint to sure of what brand it is the one that comes with two barrels all .177 and the beeman second barrel in .22 .......i am resting the gun on a sand bag? i just saw on amercian airgunner that i need to hold it lighter in my hands but i didnt think that could make that much of a diff. and the scopes i am using are the ones that come with the kit I am quite inexperienced but I have found that how tight you hold can have so much effect that if you hold it wrong you can actually miss the target (8.5x11 inch paper) at 20 yards with a sighted in ready rifle but with the right hold you can get 1 inch or better groups at 20 yards with the same rifle. Both resting on a gun rest.   Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:03 am sniper Silver Status Member Joined: 28 Nov 2008 Posts: 3752 Location: Star, Idaho i think it's your hold. i put 100 rounds through my b-26 tonite at 16 yards. they go exactly where i want. _________________ I believe in gun control, If there's a gun around I want to be controlling it.......   Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:34 am gargoyle3 Member Joined: 04 Feb 2010 Posts: 45 Location: GTA,On,Canada Might need a visit to an optometrist too.. _________________ .......__________________________ ....../'---__________--__________l] - > ...../_==o;;;;;;;________.:/ ......),--(_(__)/ .....),--(..)), ...//___// ..//___// .//___/   Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:51 am ausher Member Joined: 28 Feb 2010 Posts: 96 Location: SWMO U.S.A. Slavia wrote: Quote: They are not available everywhere. All the U.S. states and all the Canadian provinces have them. If a person is too far away from a class site to attend, in many cases they may be taken online. Check your state or provincial department of conservation/natural resources for information. For purposes of hunting license reciprocity, all the states and provinces use the same core curriculum: http://homestudy.ihea.com/ I did my hunting course online. Playing quake 3! lol...   Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:04 pm sureshot18 Member Joined: 18 Jan 2010 Posts: 59 fur8963 wrote: sniper what kind of springers do you have. i have shot alot of them and they just make me mad cause i cant sight them in even after alot alot of shooting. like im talking i have put 500 pellets through my beeman and quest on days trying to sight them in and there is just no consistency with them what you are forgeting is that springers kick forward and back so if you dont hold them as light as possible then they can be very inaccurate. Maybe the gun is sighted in and its just human error?? 9 times out of 10 that is what the problems is I always thought mine was bad until i looked it up on the internet and that is what i found. _________________ Crosman G1 extreme 177Cal. 1000fps Gamo shadow express .22 cal 750 fps   Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:12 pm broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands ausher wrote: Slavia wrote: Quote: They are not available everywhere. All the U.S. states and all the Canadian provinces have them. If a person is too far away from a class site to attend, in many cases they may be taken online. Check your state or provincial department of conservation/natural resources for information. For purposes of hunting license reciprocity, all the states and provinces use the same core curriculum: http://homestudy.ihea.com/ I did my hunting course online. Playing quake 3! lol... I did that training course too. I tried many others like Counterstrike and Battlefield but it's not a very efficient way to learn hunting skills. For instance, you don't hold your breath when you're going to fire a rifle. _________________ BIG GAP what to get     Air Gun Home Forum Index » General Air Gun Questions and Topics You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum All times are GMT - 5 Hours   Page 2 of 2   Goto page Previous  1, 2 All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First  Select a forum Main Forums----------------AirGunHome Q&AGeneral Air Gun Questions and TopicsPicture GalleryTarget Shooting: Casual, Fun and CompetitionHunting, Pest Control, Varminting People/Events/Airgun Issue Discussion----------------Introduce YourselfThe BS TopicClubs/Events/Regional/Political Airgun Issues Maintenance, Modification and Reviews----------------RiflesPistolsAntique, Collector and Novelty AirgunsBB GunsPellets/AmmoOpticsAccessoriesAirgun Smithing Buy, Sell or Trade Forums----------------For SaleWant to Buy   Note: If you are seeing "Please enter your username and password to log in." 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