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Klaatu · Member

Wanted scope for Crosman so decided to buy a Leapers 4x32 Full Size Mil-Dot over Center Point AR22 4x32 due to better reviews I found.

Think I over did it and that the cheaper priced Center Point would have been good enough despite no AO? Had to spend extra to get dovetail rings for the Leapers also.

Thanks.

fritz · Silver Status Member

There is speculation that the CP and Leapers are made by the same manufacturer and are the same scope (of course the ones you describe are not, having different features). So quality between two comparable items is a moot point.

At 4x you really don't need an AO. Especially if your scope is paralaxed at airgun ranges (about 50yds) opposed to regular powderburner scopes which are usually set at 100yds.

Assuming by Crosman you meant one of their rifles (XX60) or at least a carbine (XX50). A scope would be rather unwieldy on a pistol. Even on these smaller rifles, the AR22 would likely perform better with its smaller size. With the range limited to about 35yds on game, a 4x is perfect. My opinion is for that use, mildots are unnecessary.

Klaatu · Member

sniper · Silver Status Member

the 2100 is a smooth bore. there is no real reason to scope it.

there is no rifleing to make it group. it's a plinker.

another i had 20 years ago and sold. Neutral

rsterne · Moderator

I disagree.... I think an AO scope is much preferred, even at only 4X.... otherwise, you will have large parallax error and focusing problems at closer ranges (10-15 yards).... making it difficult to shoot indoors, for instance....

Bob

Slavia · Moderator

fritz · Silver Status Member

I have no major parallax errors at 5-15 yards with a 3-9x40 tasco, and a 4x32 RWS. Assuming the tasco is on 3-4x. Mildots are always useful, but I never seem to bother with them on the lower magnifications (mainly because if I can still see it, it must be in range)

rsterne · Moderator

fritz · Silver Status Member

That sucks, never had a problem with mine.

Klaatu · Member

Among other things, have read that: 1) one should pay for a scope around what they paid for the air rifle (it's attached to), 2) that even if the scope is beyond the rifle, one will regret down the road having bought an inferior product, and 3) that a better scope now will be useful for when one inevitably upgrades to a better rifle.

For instance, am considering purchase of a Crosman Quest 1000 (not the 1000X) - a better rifle so I've read, than the 2100 Classic, where the Leapers scope would be more appropriate.

Thanks for all of the input, BTW. It's helping me make better choices.

fritz · Silver Status Member

The $:$ isn't really necessary for airguns. It can be said about burners though. Now if I was shooting 3" groups at 1000yds I would probably invest in some optics too.

A good scope for a working airgun shouldn't run more than $200. Now for target/specialty rifles... another story.

The 4-16x40 CP that came with my Super Streak has been used up to ~400yds to scout groundhogs. At 16x (parallax set to inf.), the edges do become blurry, but 'ole Phil can still be seen clearly. It's a $80 scope... If it was mounted on a capable projectile launching device, I would have no problem engaging Mr. Groundhog (who measured about 1mil-dot at that distance on 12x).

Doc Sharptail · Member

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Top rifle: 13-77 with 24" .177 bbl. Scope is a dawn/dusk 6-24X 42mm A/O Banner by Bushnell. It has a mil-dot reticle, and gets used for paper from 50 ft. to 60 yds.... it hits what it's aimed at too Mr. Green

Bottom rifle: 22-89 with 24" .22 bbl. Scope is a 4-12X 40mm A/O Legend by Bushnell. This is my current hunting rig, and it shoots very well indeed. Both scopes cost about 3X what the rifles did- and I wouldn't have it any other way when it comes to sighting. I suppose I could go to Bushnell 4200 series, or Nikon, or Leupold, but those are out of the affordable range for me.

In short, get the best scope you can, within your budget, and don't forget quality rings. Rings on both rifles are Burris rimfire rings- all steel precision, and solid lock-up. About 50 bucks a set, and worth every penny...

Regards,

Doc Sharptail

GrizzlyMan · Member

A little over-rated with the rings, as long as you have good clamps on the rings no need to spend the extra cash. Rolling Eyes

Got cheap $10.00 rings on a Winchester 4x32mm, in a springer BAM B3-1, and trust me that thing has some punch. If the clamps are beefy you are good to go, dont buy the ones that have a thin sheet of metal as the clamp on one of the sides.

Make sure it is two bolts per ring. Shocked