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Air Gun Home Forum Index » General Air Gun Questions and Topics » can anyone ID this one?    View previous topic :: View next topic  can anyone ID this one?   Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:09 am tcarl New Member Joined: 26 Nov 2009 Posts: 5 Location: Allentown PA I am looking for some help IDing this rifle. My parents bought it for me back in the 70's and it needs some work (the co2 leaks out) anyway I would like to fix it but am hoping some one can give me some information on it. the barrel says "TAIYO "JUNIOR" 177cal JAPAN" that is all the information I have. Can anyone help?   Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:23 am sniper Silver Status Member Joined: 28 Nov 2008 Posts: 3752 Location: Star, Idaho looks like a variant of a crosman 160. welcome to the forum! http://www.archerairguns.com/crosman-160-airgun-parts-s/24.htm _________________ I believe in gun control, If there's a gun around I want to be controlling it.......   Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:32 am tcarl New Member Joined: 26 Nov 2009 Posts: 5 Location: Allentown PA Sniper, thanks for the welcome, I looked at the 160 and you are correct it does look like a varriant. with that in mind the silver knob in the back of the rifle is what is used to "charge" the rifle to be fired... I do not know if that helps or not Tom   Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:46 pm broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands tcarl wrote: "charge" the rifle Don't you mean to cock? As I assume this rifle is pretty much pre charged with a Co2 cartridge... I think that "Taiyo Junior, made in Japan, Co2 rifle, based on Crosman 160, .177" is pretty much all the info you will find, on this rifle. I wouldn't mind people to prove me wrong though. Just check out which size those O-rings are, and get some in that size from your local hardware store, or check around online for the sizes. They usually do, and are sometimes even better then the original. That's the case with a QB78, which is also pretty much a copy from the Crosman 160. _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:19 pm tcarl New Member Joined: 26 Nov 2009 Posts: 5 Location: Allentown PA Broommaster, You are correct it would be cock the rile, I do not know why my brain could not think of that word at the time I was writing the post, I guess it must be the new guy thing. I was really hoping for some idea about how to disasemble the whole thing to get to the "O" rings. I mean the take down screw is a no brainer but it was getting into the inner workings I was hoping to find out about via a schematic. you are correct also in that it uses 12 gram pre charged Co2 cartridges... any help would be greatly appreciated. Tom   Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:16 pm Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA Not much out there. Here is one for sale at $119.00, described as a copy of an "Arasaka military rifle": http://www.campsitesportshop.com/html/gun_list.html Taiyo is Miroku Taiyo Juki (Miroku Firearms Manufacturing Co.) of Kochi, Japan, making airguns from the 1970's. They also make shotguns: https://store.bluebookinc.com/InstantAccess/Category.aspx?product=4&id=347 Here are some of their models, including the Junior: https://store.bluebookinc.com/InstantAccess/Model.aspx?product=4&id=295 And a repeater featured in a Pyramydair blog: http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2009/09/taiyo-juki.html Miroku Taiyo Juki apparently used to own Kassnar Imports in Pennsylvania, which may be how the gun got here: http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/EveryGun/GunMfgDetail.aspx?id=543 _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:25 pm broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands Slavia wrote: Not much out there. Here is one for sale at $119.00, described as a copy of an "Arasaka military rifle": http://www.campsitesportshop.com/html/gun_list.html Taiyo is Miroku Taiyo Juki (Miroku Firearms Manufacturing Co.) of Kochi, Japan, making airguns from the 1970's. They also make shotguns: https://store.bluebookinc.com/InstantAccess/Category.aspx?product=4&id=347 Here are some of their models, including the Junior: https://store.bluebookinc.com/InstantAccess/Model.aspx?product=4&id=295 And a repeater featured in a Pyramydair blog: http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2009/09/taiyo-juki.html Miroku Taiyo Juki apparently used to own Kassnar Imports in Pennsylvania, which may be how the gun got here: http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/EveryGun/GunMfgDetail.aspx?id=543 How DO you do it? _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:00 pm tcarl New Member Joined: 26 Nov 2009 Posts: 5 Location: Allentown PA wow... what else can I say, clearly Slavia is the master and we are the grasshoppers. That is the most information I have ever seen. Now does anyone know how to go about finding some schematics or can someone give me an idea as to where to start disasembly? humbled oh wise one...   Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:25 pm Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA Quote: does anyone know how to go about finding some schematics I ain't that good - time for someone else to shine. In the mean time, let's assume that they copied more than just the lines of a Crosman 160. Maybe this will serve as a general guide: http://www.crosman.com/pdf/manuals/crosman/160/C160-EVP.pdf _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 9:38 am tcarl New Member Joined: 26 Nov 2009 Posts: 5 Location: Allentown PA Oh I don't know I think you deserve a "Major Award" for that one...   Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:47 am Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA Why, thank you! It will go in the window: _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:53 am fritz Silver Status Member Joined: 25 Nov 2008 Posts: 2444 Location: New Jersey- outside of Philadelphia Be careful Slavia, that lamp must be from France. I think what's stamped on the gun is exactly what you have. Everything has been said. _________________ "I never set out to be wierd, it was always everyone else who called me it" -Frank Zappa Speed is impressive, accuracy is deadly. It's not that I'm not a people person, it's just that I'm not a stupid people person. can anyone ID this one?     Air Gun Home Forum Index » General Air Gun Questions and Topics You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum All times are GMT - 5 Hours   Page 1 of 1   All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First  Select a forum Main Forums----------------AirGunHome Q&AGeneral Air Gun Questions and TopicsPicture GalleryTarget Shooting: Casual, Fun and CompetitionHunting, Pest Control, Varminting People/Events/Airgun Issue Discussion----------------Introduce YourselfThe BS TopicClubs/Events/Regional/Political Airgun Issues Maintenance, Modification and Reviews----------------RiflesPistolsAntique, Collector and Novelty AirgunsBB GunsPellets/AmmoOpticsAccessoriesAirgun Smithing Buy, Sell or Trade Forums----------------For SaleWant to Buy   Note: If you are seeing "Please enter your username and password to log in." 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