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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:35 pm Reply with quote
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I just bought a Gamo Recon for the family and the manual is worthless with regard to cleaning tips. What should I use to clean out the factory "gunk" in the barrel? Do I need oil for anything? Silicone 'oil' for anything?
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Shoot is for awhile and see what happens. For cleaning you can use a dedicated airgun cleaning kit or whatever (fishing line, very small dowel) to drive or pull a cotton cloth scrap coated in oil through the barrel to clean it up.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:00 pm Reply with quote
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It would be best to remove the barrel if you could for a thorough cleaning.

I would start by having the barrel separated from the action, then give it a nice squirt of WD-40, CLP, Hoppes #9 or any other product designed to dissolve lead. Then go for a solvent soaked patch, and finish with dry patches until clean. Run a patch dampened with a protector like silicone to leave an ultra THIN layer to protect the steel. Quickly make sure all solvents are removed from the breach seal, use a dab of silicone on the seal. Reinstall barrel.

Should you not be able to remove the barrel, be sure to use a non-petroleum based solvent like Goo-Gone or Windex. It will take more effort to get things clean like this, but must be done on hard to remove barrels. Do the same things as you would with petrol based solvents to clean.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:13 pm Reply with quote
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I would respectfully disagree with Fritz.

You don't need to separate the barrel from the gun - it's more trouble than it's worth. Just crack the barrel open (without cocking it) and you should be able to run a patch down the bore, like Eric said. Here's another thread where various methods are discussed:
http://www.airgunhome.com/agforum/viewtopic.php?t=1954&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Airguns don't need bore cleaning as frequently as powder burning guns - far less pressure and temperature. As for lead fouling, it's not an issue (especially with a new barrel). Forget the petroleum-based solvents like WD-40, CLP, Hoppe's #9, or Goo-Gone. They will soften and degrade your breech seal. Go for the Windex, or some other non-petroleum cleaner/degreaser. Afterwards, just a drop of oil on a patch will be enough to protect the bore from corrosion.

Fritz - Goo-Gone is up to 95% petroleum distillates:
http://www.magicamerican.com/media/154654/goo%20gone.pdf

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:24 pm Reply with quote
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I do suppose it's a good thing I don't use Goo-Gone then. Every thread I've read people have successfully used it without mention of dieseling or other problems associated with petrol products. Possibly it behaves differently?

Just reciting the usual that I've read a thousand times, who would have thought?

Actually Slavia, for myself it's for safety. On my Diana 34 the barrel doesn't open far enough to expose the entire breech face without cocking.I must either A) constantly hold the barrel under tension, or B) cock the gun and mishandle it. So to be safe, it's worth the effort to remove it (only takes 5 minutes to go on and off). On my Super Streak I get someone else to do the work while I hold the gun.

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About the "lead fouling", what exactly should the buildup be called? There's obviously quite a bit of lead left in my barrels after a couple thousand pellets.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:21 pm Reply with quote
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There's obviously quite a bit of lead left in my barrels after a couple thousand pellets.

Is it lead, or is it the graphite coating that some pellets carry to prevent oxidation? What I've been reading says that lead buildup is only a problem in faster guns shooting harder pellets (higher antimony content). Most places say not to worry about it until accuracy suffers. A new Gamo Recon is just going to need a quick cleaning before the first shot, and lead probably won't ever be an issue.
http://www.air-rifle.net/cleaning/cleaning.html
http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2005/04/how-should-i-clean-my-airgun-barrel.html
http://www.nygord-precision.com/
http://my.tbaytel.net/coopers/Airgun%20Cleaning%20Tips/
http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2006/01/cleaning-airgun-barrels-stuff-you-need.html
http://www.airgun-supply.com/how_do_i_clean_my_air_gun.html

As for Goo-Gone dieseling:
http://www.airgunhome.com/agforum/viewtopic.php?p=10301&highlight=b26#10301

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:25 pm Reply with quote
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Thanks for the links and directions.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:52 am Reply with quote
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Hi..use goo gone..use petrol ...use diesal...in the barrel..
What the air got to compress against to reach enough compression
to ignite ????...

waiting for some one to say..PELLET..

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:51 am Reply with quote
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FWIW, the new barrel was filthy. I ran several patches down it and the first few were nearly black. I ran a couple with Windex on them and finally one with a drop of oil. I, then, shot 5-8 pellets at the ground as it was dark.

One thing I noticed that seemed a bit odd was that there wasn't an o-ring on the back end of the barrel. Other break barrel guns that I have looked at seem to have an o-ring of sorts on the breech end of the barrel. Using a flashlight, I do think there was one on the cylinder side of the seal, so maybe that's all that is needed.

Hopefully, I'll get a chance to actually shot at a target tomorrow some time.
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Some guns do have the barrel seal at the transfer port. 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:29 pm Reply with quote
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Mostly lower powered. I have an old Gem-style Diana (pre-WWII) and it has the seal in the breach face. Because of that, you can use things like Goo-Gone without worrying too much about the seal. Just be sure to wipe it clean before using.
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