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Would it be best to leave air in the resevoir of my Crosman C02 model 2400 when not in use? Or should I remove the powerlet and store it empty? I've read where some guns should be stored with a charge (PCP for example) and some types of guns should not (some pump models).
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:38 pm |
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| RatcatcherDino wrote: |
Would it be best to leave air in the resevoir of my Crosman C02 model 2400 when not in use? Or should I remove the powerlet and store it empty? I've read where some guns should be stored with a charge (PCP for example) and some types of guns should not (some pump models).
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Personally ive found that as long as you dont leave it in for more then 2 weeks you should be fine, in the course of daily shooting, it would not really matter. |
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:00 pm |
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| Alucard wrote: |
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Would it be best to leave air in the resevoir of my Crosman C02 model 2400 when not in use? Or should I remove the powerlet and store it empty? I've read where some guns should be stored with a charge (PCP for example) and some types of guns should not (some pump models).
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Personally ive found that as long as you dont leave it in for more then 2 weeks you should be fine, in the course of daily shooting, it would not really matter. |
So, based on this response, I assume it's best NOT to leave a C02 powerlet in the gun after use?
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:08 pm |
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| RatcatcherDino wrote: |
| Alucard wrote: |
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Would it be best to leave air in the resevoir of my Crosman C02 model 2400 when not in use? Or should I remove the powerlet and store it empty? I've read where some guns should be stored with a charge (PCP for example) and some types of guns should not (some pump models).
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Personally ive found that as long as you dont leave it in for more then 2 weeks you should be fine, in the course of daily shooting, it would not really matter. |
So, based on this response, I assume it's best NOT to leave a C02 powerlet in the gun after use?  |
Well no, I am saying that it does not make a difference either way, if it has any negative effect's they will be minimal, I have left them in gun's for month's at a time with little to no notice of a drop in performance. |
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:23 pm |
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| Alucard wrote: |
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| Alucard wrote: |
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Would it be best to leave air in the resevoir of my Crosman C02 model 2400 when not in use? Or should I remove the powerlet and store it empty? I've read where some guns should be stored with a charge (PCP for example) and some types of guns should not (some pump models).
Thanks for the help.  |
Personally ive found that as long as you dont leave it in for more then 2 weeks you should be fine, in the course of daily shooting, it would not really matter. |
So, based on this response, I assume it's best NOT to leave a C02 powerlet in the gun after use?  |
Well no, I am saying that it does not make a difference either way, if it has any negative effect's they will be minimal, I have left them in gun's for month's at a time with little to no notice of a drop in performance. |
I'm not really concerned with the performance of the C02 after storing it for so long. I'm more concerned with "what's best" for the seals and the gun. I know with PCP guns, they recommend keeping a full charge at all times to help preserve the life of the seals. I'm just wondering if the same may apply to C02 guns, like my 2400.
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:26 pm |
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| i blew the seal in my 1077 doing that..... after 4 hours.... |
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:33 pm |
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| sniper wrote: |
| i blew the seal in my 1077 doing that..... after 4 hours.... |
Leaving a powerlet in the gun? Really?
So, what does Crosman recommend concerning this?
I don't recal reading anything in the user manual.
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:05 pm |
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i'm not sure..... mine is a '96 1077... rarely used....
it went ...shhhhhhh.
pm yourdaddyjoe.
i was keeping it charged for a window rat hunt a couple years ago....
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:19 pm |
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| sniper wrote: |
i'm not sure..... mine is a '96 1077... rarely used....
it went ...shhhhhhh.
pm yourdaddyjoe.
i was keeping it charged for a window rat hunt a couple years ago....
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Just after 4 hours?
Sounds like you maybe had a bad seal to begin with IMO.
I admit, I've accidently left the C02 cartridge in my gun overnight and nothing like that ever happened. But I can't say that is good for the gun, I honestly don't know. I recently learned that PCP reservoirs are suppose to remain fully charged at all times or it could cause damage to the gun, or at the very least, help promote a shorter lifespan.
I was just wondering what the rule is concerning C02 guns.
Is storing a C02 gun with a fully charged C02 cartridge good or bad for the seals? What exactly do manufactures recommend?
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:45 pm |
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that's possible ..my marauder sits with 2000psi 24/7... as do the discos..
i would think c02 is the same??... but i'm a novice with a lot of posts.  |
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:36 pm |
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:21 am |
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I always leave my PCP and my CO2 guns charged. I use bulk fill though.  |
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:17 am |
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:23 am |
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I leave my Twinmaster, QB78 and Umaerx Winchester charged all the time, all three for over 2 years with no problems. My CP88 I empty when I have finished using it.
The biggest problem with Co2 capsules and leaving then charged in the gun, is not the valve seal as it usually made of some hard plastic, but the way the co2 capsule neck is sealed into the gun, if it is done by an Oring then ok but if it seats on to a flat washer then discharge it after two weeks, and let the washer reset itself.
Most guns that take 2 Co2 capsules can be left charged, but guns such as pistols which take a single capsule will probably need discharging periodically.
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:47 am |
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Here's an interesting discussion of the issue relating to pneumatics - perhaps it extrapolates to CO2 as well:
http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2006/03/safe-storage-of-pneumatic-airguns.html
The issue for this author is not one of seal degredation/deformation, but rather contamination. He suggests storage with a little pressure as a way of keeping the valves firmly shut to prevent the entry of foreign material. He makes a exception for guns that need to be cocked to hold pressure (not the case with PCP or CO2).
The Benjamin Discovery manual also mentions storage with pressure to prevent contamination:
http://www.crosman.com/pdf/manuals/BP1K77&BP922%20OM.pdf
Why then would those manufacturers suggest removing the CO2 capsule? My suspicion is to avoid lawsuits based on what they estimate to be their intended market. That is, people starting their shooting career, as opposed to more experienced shooters that might be attracted to a PCP. The kinds of people that would put a pellet in, pop their little brother, and then claim they didn't know it had pressure. Or the ones that consider storage to be the trunk of their Yugo under a blazing sun. |
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