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Air Gun Home Forum Index » Rifles » Questions about the Crosman G1 Goto page 1, 2  Next    View previous topic :: View next topic  Questions about the Crosman G1   Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:45 am Crosman140 Senior Member Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 663 Location: USA OK, so I'm doing this in the wrong order. I will be posting pictures and my full review of my new Crosman G1, but I need your help first. Please understand that I have never shot a springer before, so I don't know what to expect as "normal." Here's the situation Once I break the barrel down and load in a pellet, when I lift the barrel back up to the firing position, it kind of bounces. I have to keep a firm amount of momentum on it in order to get it to click into place. So, here is what it's like...I swing the barrel up, it kind of bounces I keep the pressure going and then it clicks. If I don't do this, it seems to not latch properly and I've had the barrel drop down once or twice. Is it typical with a springer to have to really swing it hard and keep the pressure on the barrel when raising the it back up, or should it just swing and click with minimal effort? _________________ My Critter Gitters .22 Crosman 140 (1955) .177 Crosman G1 (2009) .177 Crosman 1377 (2009) .177 Daisy 880 (2019) BB Daisy Red Ryder (2012) BB Daisy Buck (2019) BB Crosman 1600 (1980) BB Marksman 1010 (1979)   Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:29 am dummyracer36 Senior Member Joined: 21 Sep 2008 Posts: 723 Location: St. Louis, Missouri with my break barrels, i dont exactly "swing" it closed. i load the pellet, then grasp the barrel and close it smoothly, when it reaches the point where it makes contact with the breach, i add firm pressure until it clicks. keep in mind that it might just need some breaking in before it closes smoothly and clicks closed without needing to be slapped closed _________________ "not tonight dear, i have a race in the morning"   Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:44 am Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA My G1 had the same problem - flop it on a rest just a little too hard and the barrel would move downward. Polishing the latch parts and a little moly/graphite seems to have solved the problem. _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:52 am oddtodd Silver Status Member Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 2029 Location: Richmond, IN USA I've never had that problem on my storm XT but I had a Chinese underlever that did the same thing. _________________ Airguns: Two starlings talking "Larry, did you hear that? Larry?? LARRY!!!!"   Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:18 pm Crosman140 Senior Member Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 663 Location: USA Slavia wrote: My G1 had the same problem - flop it on a rest just a little too hard and the barrel would move downward. Polishing the latch parts and a little moly/graphite seems to have solved the problem. What do you polish with? And is the moly/graphite a powder? _________________ My Critter Gitters .22 Crosman 140 (1955) .177 Crosman G1 (2009) .177 Crosman 1377 (2009) .177 Daisy 880 (2019) BB Daisy Red Ryder (2012) BB Daisy Buck (2019) BB Crosman 1600 (1980) BB Marksman 1010 (1979)   Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:51 pm sniper Silver Status Member Joined: 28 Nov 2008 Posts: 3752 Location: Star, Idaho my b-26 was the same way. after a couple of tins of pellets it became really smooth. only use enough force to close the barrel. _________________ I believe in gun control, If there's a gun around I want to be controlling it.......   Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:15 pm fritz Silver Status Member Joined: 25 Nov 2008 Posts: 2444 Location: New Jersey- outside of Philadelphia You can make graphite powder quite easily. Get a mortar and pestle (not from Sniper's rat hunting gear!), a good tupperwear and old stubby screw driver with a large grinding surface will also work. Take a pencil and slice it down with a razor blade to take out the major pieces of graphite and then smush them up with. Mix with a bit of 70% isopropyl alcohol and put on a key to lubricate a lock, insert the key and cycle the lock action many times to get the mixture in there. (Yeah, completely off topic) Anyway... I suppose you mix in the graphite powder with the moly lube. _________________ "I never set out to be wierd, it was always everyone else who called me it" -Frank Zappa Speed is impressive, accuracy is deadly. It's not that I'm not a people person, it's just that I'm not a stupid people person.   Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:18 pm Crosman140 Senior Member Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 663 Location: USA sniper wrote: my b-26 was the same way. after a couple of tins of pellets it became really smooth. only use enough force to close the barrel. I use a firm amount of effort, but no force. _________________ My Critter Gitters .22 Crosman 140 (1955) .177 Crosman G1 (2009) .177 Crosman 1377 (2009) .177 Daisy 880 (2019) BB Daisy Red Ryder (2012) BB Daisy Buck (2019) BB Crosman 1600 (1980) BB Marksman 1010 (1979)   Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 6:43 am Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA I did my polishing with a diamond file, then 600 grit paper, then a buffing wheel with Tripoli abrasive (the brown stuff). A Dremel with a felt or cloth wheel should work also. The lube was JM's paste, which I believe is 70% molybdenum disulfide. I think in this application any synthetic grease would work. I also replaced the two plastic pivot washers with steel. (I ground the thickness down by hand with a Carborundum sharpening stone.) I set the tension on the pivot screw just to the point where the barrel would not fall under its own weight. But here's the hard part - the screw kept loosening up. Blue Loctite helped a little, but I finally wound up adding a setscrew to keep the pivot screw head from turning: http://www.airgunhome.com/agforum/viewtopic.php?t=1760&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45 _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 1:50 am Amigo Veteran Member Joined: 18 Sep 2008 Posts: 263 Location: U.S. MidWest Be aware that pencil lead also has clay in it. Amigo   Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 2:02 am kanyon Silver Status Member Joined: 09 Aug 2008 Posts: 1582 Location: New Zealand I had a gun that if yer droped it on the rest to hard the barrel would open... had to put 3 spacer washer in the back ot the breach latch spring... 2 of mine need that little extra to make them click home....   Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 11:09 pm BCSteel Member Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Posts: 88 Location: Sitting in Front of my Computer I ground a little (like 1 mm or so) off of the top of the breech end to facilitate easier and consistant lock up on my .177 phantom. On mine the barrel breech end was not made with a straight cut and the excess material was causing poor lock up. Works perfect every time now and only took a few minutes to fix when I realized what the problem was. _________________ "Comfort in the known prevents us from discovering the unknown" - Jed Davis   Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 1:45 am Midichlorian Veteran Member Joined: 25 May 2009 Posts: 333 Location: Middle of the Desert I got G1 but it don`t have this problem. _________________ .22 Benjamin Marauder Join http://airgunspace.ning.com It`s Like Myspace for air gunners!   Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 4:11 am broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands Midichlorian wrote: I got G1 but it don`t have this problem. Then there's somethin' wrong with yer gun. There's gotta be somethin' wrong with a Crosman, or it ain't a Crosman. _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 4:05 pm Crosman140 Senior Member Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 663 Location: USA Midichlorian wrote: I got G1 but it don`t have this problem. Mine is getting better now. It closes much nicer. _________________ My Critter Gitters .22 Crosman 140 (1955) .177 Crosman G1 (2009) .177 Crosman 1377 (2009) .177 Daisy 880 (2019) BB Daisy Red Ryder (2012) BB Daisy Buck (2019) BB Crosman 1600 (1980) BB Marksman 1010 (1979) Questions about the Crosman G1     Air Gun Home Forum Index » Rifles You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum All times are GMT - 5 Hours   Page 1 of 2   Goto page 1, 2  Next All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First  Select a forum Main Forums----------------AirGunHome Q&AGeneral Air Gun Questions and TopicsPicture GalleryTarget Shooting: Casual, Fun and CompetitionHunting, Pest Control, Varminting People/Events/Airgun Issue Discussion----------------Introduce YourselfThe BS TopicClubs/Events/Regional/Political Airgun Issues Maintenance, Modification and Reviews----------------RiflesPistolsAntique, Collector and Novelty AirgunsBB GunsPellets/AmmoOpticsAccessoriesAirgun Smithing Buy, Sell or Trade Forums----------------For SaleWant to Buy   Note: If you are seeing "Please enter your username and password to log in." 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