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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 5:19 pm |
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| fritz |
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No sh__, as a kid they told me George Washington had slaves... but............. he payed them.
I agree on the media coverage of the Iraq war, it is too much. I support the use of napalm and I support shooting the f__ out of any blue helmets who want to come tell me what to do.
Ya know whats nice about a .338+ cal? A blue helmet won't do sh__ if it hits you. Should the bullet not penetrate, the sheer force exerted onto the helmet itself is enough to kill. |
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:18 pm |
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| billandbeaufort |
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If, I repeat if, America comes to the point of UN Troops in our streets (a prospect I admitt I find more likely now than I would have a few months ago) the key will be whether the American troops remember their oath. Troops in the US military swear to uphold the constitution. When I was in we were even given instructrion that we were not to obey an "unlawful order" (though the saergents gritted their teeth in saying it. I suppose they were afraid of what might happen with a "lawyer" in a combat situation). Will American troops fire on American citizens in violation of the constitution just because they are ordered to? Some will, maybe the majority.
I hope it never comes to that.
It frightens me how little people actually know or undrstand our history now. Books of re-written history have appeared so often in last decade or two it's amazing. Blatant falsehoods taught in school, because it fits a pc way of thinking. People seem to have forgotten how to think, and if you do think for youself, someone is bound to scream you're offensive and possibly dangerous. |
Will they shoot? 3 words for you to google-Kent State University |
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 8:00 pm |
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what makes the grass grow??? BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD!!!
sorry. a line from "full metal jacket".
git some git some hahaha git some!!!!
"god has a hard on for marines, because we kill everything we see! he plays his games, we play ours"!
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:17 am |
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| Slavia |
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| Will they shoot? 3 words for you to google-Kent State University |
Not to mention "the whiskey rebellion", and "the bonus army." |
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:45 am |
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| But with the political correctiveness of this day and age could they shoot like they did at Kent state that was awhile ago, we have a black president and times have changed, would the blue hats shoot no question but our own troops? that is a hard question. Howard |
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:32 am |
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| billandbeaufort |
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| But with the political correctiveness of this day and age could they shoot like they did at Kent state that was awhile ago, we have a black president and times have changed, would the blue hats shoot no question but our own troops? that is a hard question. Howard |
Yeah we have a black president! And I am a conservative white guy! Hell yeah they'd shoot! They hate us! No I am not a universal racist but I recognise the diference between an american negro and a black policeman directing trafic in Hamilton , Bermuda! No, negro is not a bad word, it is the scientific equivalent of caucasion! |
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:13 am |
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| oddtodd |
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:16 am |
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| broommaster2000 |
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:57 pm |
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| billandbeaufort |
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| Slavia wrote: |
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| Will they shoot? 3 words for you to google-Kent State University |
Not to mention "the whiskey rebellion", and "the bonus army." |
Yeah the whiskey rebellion! That was a good example. George Washington didn't wait long! What was the bonus army? |
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:57 pm |
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| In school they forget to mention the whiskey rebellion because it involves alcohol - another key invention/discovery in history. |
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:35 pm |
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| the biggest thing that angers me these days is the fact that around election time & now,if you did not vote for obama or critcize him most label you racist.lets face it race is why he won.all these great campaign promises the idiot made have not been followed through.what happened to eliminating earmarks & reading every page of every bill?he outright said he isn't.he claimed he'd end this war,the way he stated it almost immediately.now he is deploying more troops.he claimed there would be penalties for anyone who violated bailout agreements & funding/bailout money would be revoked.hasnt done it yet & i still hear of all these companies abusing it without consequence.seems as if as long as obama claims he will do something everyone buys it and gets angry at the next controversy ,forgeting the last.im sorry but if you cant keep your business a float because your policies and spending habits suck,you deserve to fail & get no bailout.if you buy a house and cant afford the bills ,well too damn bad.i didnt get a damn bailout when i was homeless waiting on s.s. disability.if i cant afford something i dont buy it,isnt that common sense or are people just idiots more now than ever.why should tax payers cover the a$$'s of irresponsible business & homeowners.15 years ago this wouldnt have happened.people would be held responsible for their mistakes & have to deal with em.obama sucks,so did bush as well as clinton.the last good president was washington as far as im concerned.i see all this bs on tv about how whites are the only people that get proper medical care or arent discriminated against.all the bs "oh we are still being stepped all over by the white man" "its just as bad now as 50 years ago" bull!there is a black president, I DONT WANT TO HEAR ANY Bs bout BLACKS ARE OPPRESSED!shut up and stop complaining over things that arent even true.guess who is being blamed for the economy?white men with blue eyes.sounds prety stupid,aye?well i heard it on tv this moring and was not suprised that it was said,especially sdince it was said by a black woman.ya wanna know who is really being oppressed?the white man.this is the worst time in history to be one.say you get into a fight & get arrested.the fight was over someone ,say kicking yoiour car & you beat the hell outta him.now you are white & the other guy can be whatever race you want,black ,latin,jew or even gay.now when you go to court it will be labeled a hate crime.NOW THAT IS BULL!im not gonna fight someone cuz i like them, im gonna cuz they pissed me off to the point of hating them.i have NEVER seen any other race than white charged with that.sh!t needs to change.screw all that affirmative action bs & any other law/policy akin to it. |
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:01 pm |
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| Slavia |
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| What was the bonus army? |
Protesters (veterans, no less) were driven out of Washington, D.C. by cavalry and tanks commanded by our heroes, Macarthur and Patton:
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:01 pm |
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| fritz |
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You guys don't know how many times I have been called a racist because the dumb a$$ can't do his job. Not to mention the hypocrisy and foolishness. Now, don't get me wrong... I hated Bush and his posse too.
All I want is a million and 500 acres of prime wilderness all to myself. I could imagine it. Picture perfect log cabin by a fresh mountain spring, pine trees swaying in the wind as a squirrel scampers along the rocks and suddenly dies of lead poisoning . The caribou are in full rut, I can hear their calls throughout the land. Maybe in the off season I get salmon up the stream? When I look out the window in front of my fireplace with the .50 black powder above it and above that a nice deer head, I can see pristine mountains without any dumb a$$ politicians or newsmedia blocking my view (because I shot them all for trespassing ). Maybe relax in the hot tub with the old lady (que Viagra commercial). Got a closet full of camo and a basement full of the world's finest airguns and powder burners. It's all good in my little world of wildlife (occasionally dieing of lead poisoning) and no politicians, no idiots, no tabloids, just nature.
(Puts down the hashpipe) Now seeing that will never happen, the best I can do is keep hallucinating. |
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:12 pm |
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DANG, OUR DREAMS ARE THE SAME.
Mine involves an Appalacian trout stream, But We're on the same page.
I don't care if our pres in black white or blue.
His performance is what will convince me or NOT.
My dream also involves a big garage and 1(ONE) hot rod.
A pacel(?), of 10/22's an and indoor range.
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:25 pm |
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Guys we need to step back and definitly leave race out of this...even if it's the other people calling you names...you can't win that. There are conservative Afracian Americans or blacks and they to are offended by the word used earlier. It harkens back to a time when it was used only to aviod the other more offensive word. We need to welcome all constitutional believers. I supported Dr. Alan Keys for president a few years ago and I would still do so if I thought he had a chance.
We are under a microscope and we need to remember that. I believe you are right there are those who would like any excuse to limit our freedoms even more. Don't give it to them.
The Bonus Army were American Veterans of WWI (aprox. 17000 plus families and "others") who came to Washington and set up camps. They had been promised cash bonuses for their service by congress. In the hight of the Great Depression (1932) they marched on washington seeking early payment. (They had been awarded in 1924 and were to "mature" for 20 years). Douglas MacArthur and his aid Dwight David Eisenhower sent the 12th Infantry Regiment and the 3rd Cavalry Regiment (commanded by George Patton) to drive them out of the shanty town they had built across from the White House.
Hundreds of Vets were injured and several killed. It should be noted that after the first attack (with tanks, bayonets and gas) that the president ordered the attak stopped. MacArthur ignored him and ordered a second attack.
The troops did attack is the point here I believe, they attacked other veterans... a little scary. |
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