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supermarvin76 · Member

I have found a local store that has both a Beeman RS1 and a Winchester 800x both are .177 and within $10 of each other.

I have tried finding information on both to no avail. Which would you recommend, if either, and why?

Thank you.

AirGunEric · Site Admin

The Winchester is made by Daisy, and the RS1 is a Beeman Chinese-import. I seem to recall having heard alot of complaints about the Beeman (it is the unit with the "interchangeable barrel") but I have never owned either of them myself.

At that price point, I would offer that the Daisy/Winchester is probably the better rifle- but have you considered any other choices in the same price range? I.e. a Crosman Phantom or Quest, or, dare I suggest it, even a Gamo.

supermarvin76 · Member

I dont think the Beeman has the interchangable barrel.

I read the the Winchester has a heavy trigger pull. I have looked at a few websites, and have found conflicting reports about tripgger pull anywhere from 5.5-9 lbs trigger pull.

AirGunEric · Site Admin

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Apollo · Member

I have the Winchester 500 (not the 800) which Daisy imports from two sources, Brazil and Turkey. I didn't realize that Daisy also imported the 800 from 2 sources. Check the side of the breech block. If it says Made in Turkey, it's a re-badged Hatsan. The triggers on these Winchesters are reportedly harsh. But the 9 lbs pull is probably an exaggeration. The sear needs polishing on the Winchesters.

I also found that web posting from a guy putting an adjustable trigger screw on his Winchester (1000 I think). It's a custom job. Do-able, but not something I wanted to try.

Based on other Beeman products I've seen, I agree with AirgunEric, I'll bet dollars to donuts that the Beeman is made in China. The fit and finish on my Turkish Winchester is nice....much better than any airgun coming out of China. If it were me, I'd go with the Winchester...but that's me.

As for the power, the Winchester should do close to the advertised 800fps. Can't vouch for the Beeman.

If you can see both guns side by side, compare quality of the build....smoothness in cocking, condition of the crown, barrel droop, finish of the wood stock, etc. It should give you an idea which is built better.

broommaster2000 · Moderator

Apollo · Member

He's asking about those two rifles. Between a Chinese rifle and a Turkish rifle, I'll take the Turkish one.

broommaster2000 · Moderator

I personally dislike Turkish rifles, because they've got a weird quality control. That Beeman has a pretties looking stock too.

fritz · Silver Status Member

Beeman.

super6 · Member

The Hatsans are better than the Chicoms in that price range. The triggers are tuneable. Hatsan makes the Walthers, Webleys, Daisy Powerlines, and the Winchesters. I have a $69 Daisy Powerline 1000 refurb. With a lube tune and a little polishing in the trigger assembly, it will outshoot the Beeman in both fps and accuracy.

If you want a cheap Chicom, buy the Ruger. It's a copy of the bigger RWS 350, can use 34 seals and springs, and it's made by BAM. The trigger assembly is exactly like the RWS/Diana guns, with a metal trigger that polishes up nicely. It's easily as nice as my Gamo 440 with a better trigger, out of the box.

Ray