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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:41 pm |
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| waterweasle |
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| ok I've read about how they get unstable due to the velocity, but what do you guys think is the max effective range for these things?? I have a gamo bigcat, and the few squirrells I've shot were stunning deaths..............so any ideas?? |
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:21 pm |
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| cw |
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I think that they are a gimmick to appeal to younger,
uninformed shooters. What good is velocity without
accuracy? Accuracy and applicable energy are usually
the objectives in high performance airgunning. |
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:35 pm |
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| waterweasle |
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I certainly understand the trade offs, I'm just a velocity junky, and the kills I've made with the PBA were outstanding
hey CW I understand you own a airforce condor??? I'm thinking of getting one and had a question, once the pcp tank is full, is it true that you only need a few pumps with the airforce pump to bring it back to full again?? |
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:07 pm |
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It takes about 180 strokes to get it back up to 3000 psi
from a little under 2000 psi. The last 10-15 strokes are
the hardest, requiring around 170+ lbs of downward force.
But, it is so worth it, once it is up to pressure.
From a full fill, I get 25 shots on high power (65+ fpe) and
160+ shots on low power (19+ fpe). For pest control I can't
think of a more versatile airgun.
If I were limited to one gun, it would be a Condor. |
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:43 pm |
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| CW, what does 65+fpe do to a squirrel? |
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:49 pm |
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| broommaster2000 |
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It'll probably just pass trough. 19 Fpe is a lot for a Squirrel to take in the first place.  |
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 3:00 am |
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| fritz wrote: |
| CW, what does 65+fpe do to a squirrel? |
"Prob skin it in the process"
The Evanix at 65ft/lbs with 29gr doing
1000fps will pass though a bunny head at
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:58 am |
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Superdomes at 30 fpe would be a better choice, out to 60-70
yards. 65 fpe with Eun Jin domes would be more suited to 150+
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 8:41 pm |
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| ok I'm second guessing my need for speed, I shot a squirrelle today with a 22 rimfire, CB cap with 29grains bullet at about 710fps, from the computation on the main page it had about 32fpe, and I'm sold that I dont need all the speed, just better accuracy, now I really cant wait to buy that condor and NOT need to crank it up to high power all the time |
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:24 pm |
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| I've never hit a single target with them, but then again... I've never fired them at anything either... |
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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:35 pm |
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| The only thing I use PBAs for are my co2 pistols. I would use them in lower power guns, but I choose something else for hunting. |
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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 9:09 am |
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| I tried them and I couldn't get a good group no matter how hard I tried. The rifle I used likes heavy pellets anyway, the heavier the better. I usually stick to crosman ammo though, because that's what my local dealers carry. I think my local gunshop keeps them there for me because they always have a couple or 3 tins of each. He is a nice old guy and he has given me lots of advice on rifles. He loves my discovery and he keeps trying to talk me into selling it to him. |
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:26 pm |
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| You're beating your gun to death with PBA's and similar light pellets. You should use medium to heavy pellets in your Gamo. |
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