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Air Gun Home Forum Index » Hunting, Pest Control, Varminting » Shoot What You Got Goto page 1, 2  Next    View previous topic :: View next topic  Shoot What You Got   Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:00 pm Crosman140 Senior Member Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 663 Location: USA I don't brag much about my old Daisy Powerline 880, but I thought this story was worth posting. Hopefully, I'll be posting stories about my Crosman 140. My little Daisy Back around 1995, my wife and I bought a beautiful four-bedroom Victorian style house with some wonderful oak woodwork inside. Anyway, the town was known as "tree city," but it should have been nicknamed "squirrel city," but then maybe the two go hand in hand. I guess the squirrels realized the beauty of our house too, so they decided to move in. They chewed holes into the lower overhang and settled in for what they thought was going to be a nice and quiet long stay. I had a different opinion. Now, I would like to tell you that I enjoy spending time shooting, but I don't enjoy spending money shooting. I said that to say this: my rig is a little Daisy Powerline 880 pellet gun which I paid $40 for and I added an $8 scope. That might not seem like much to those of you who have spent $300 or more on yours, but it works for me and it worked just fine on that little house wrecker too. Let me put it this way, do the words "head shot" or "one shot" mean anything to you? Yep, I had placed the little gun next to me in my car. When I came home for lunch one day, I looked up into my easement and sure enough I spotted it. The cute little brown head was peeking out as if to say, "If you want me, you're gonna have to come and get me." I slowly applied the breaks and came to a stop in the middle of my driveway. Quietly, I rolled the window down just enough to get the barrel out and to have enough room to get a good view with my scope. That window made a great gun rest and, with only a "head shot" to be had, I took a breath, aimed and…well I think you get the picture. What my Daisy lacks in price and rank in the world of air rifles, she made up for right then and there with that perfect 15 yard shot. _________________ My Critter Gitters .22 Crosman 140 (1955) .177 Crosman G1 (2009) .177 Crosman 1377 (2009) .177 Daisy 880 (2019) BB Daisy Red Ryder (2012) BB Daisy Buck (2019) BB Crosman 1600 (1980) BB Marksman 1010 (1979)   Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:10 pm broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands Apart from suggesting .22 for hunting, I can understand the idea of having your house knibbled down by chip 'n dale isn't much of a joke either. The reason we say that it's better to spend a bit more on a rifle, is because, apart from the fact that your accuracy, and effective distance gets better, you also increase the chance of a clean kill, maybe from a longer distance even. Also, you'll notice that the overal feel of a rifle gets better too, once you've spend a bit of money on it. You can always get a second handed gun too, for about a 100 dollars, and still have a decent hunter. All my guns are used, but since my country is a little bit smaller then yours, it's also a bit easyer to get your hands on one. Keep up the good work though, it's not like your house is going to have to suffer because of some critters. _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:28 pm Jaxom Senior Member Joined: 06 Aug 2008 Posts: 927 Crosman140 I agree. For whatever reason you're sometimes stuck with what you have, not what you'd like to have or perhaps in your case what don't mind on spending. The one thing that I give the most credit to you is that you understood the capabilites of your rifle and didn't try to "stretch" them beyond what it was able to do. And I think this must count for something. BTW...good shot! Jax _________________ .22 2300kt Crosman Custom   Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:35 pm Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA Quote: you understood the capabilites of your rifle and didn't try to "stretch" them beyond what it was able to do By all means shoot what you've got. I think the people that can outshoot their gun are a minority, and no matter what you own there will always be a gun that's faster, more accurate, more convenient, etc. Practice so you know your own limitations as well as the equipment's limitations, and shoot what you've got. _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:21 pm Crosman140 Senior Member Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 663 Location: USA From your comments, I take it you don't want some noob gunner reading my story and then running out and spending $40 on his pest controller. I won't bother mentioning the rabbit I hit at 25 yards with my first Daisy Powerline 880 (yep, I've owned two of 'em). Another head-shot, single-shot kill. But, now I've got my 140. Hoping to develop some stories from using it now. _________________ My Critter Gitters .22 Crosman 140 (1955) .177 Crosman G1 (2009) .177 Crosman 1377 (2009) .177 Daisy 880 (2019) BB Daisy Red Ryder (2012) BB Daisy Buck (2019) BB Crosman 1600 (1980) BB Marksman 1010 (1979)   Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:10 pm AirGunEric Site Admin Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 6930 Location: "Out There" Crosman140 wrote: From your comments, I take it you don't want some noob gunner reading my story and then running out and spending $40 on his pest controller. Yup. Don't want someone thinking they can get the $40 Pumpmaster, pump it a few times and go deer hunting. Sounds ridiculous, but look at some of the marketing crap some companies put out (Gamo being a prime example) indicating almost this very thing. _________________ ` I'd say "I care." But I'd be lying. Canadian Airgun Supplier: http://www.scopesandammo.com/storefront   Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:17 am kanyon Silver Status Member Joined: 09 Aug 2008 Posts: 1582 Location: New Zealand It all sounds good to me..As long as you are getting kills at the range you use it what more do you require. Not all my shots are dead kills 40+m but they only kick for 30 ses till I get a point blank shot in the head. Nature less forgiving than most hunters Watch a cat with a mouse or a bird or watch hawk rip a live rabbit apart. Be good to hear a few storys with the new shooter _________________ Career Infinity PCP .22 Webley Patriot .25 Hatsan mod 75 .22 Hatsan mod 99 .177 (Quattro & SAS) Kral underlever .177 ............................................. .   Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:15 am Crosman140 Senior Member Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 663 Location: USA [quote="kanyon"] Nature less forgiving than most hunters [quote] I like the direction of your thought here and I'll go a step further than that... People are less forgiving than nature. People are so quick on the draw to point a finger at a hunter for not getting the perfect clean kill every time. Yet, as you said...a hawk can sit there and rip out the entrails of a rabbit as it lies there breathing and heart beating watching the whole act upon itself. We should put a ban on the inhumane rabbit killing by hawks. _________________ My Critter Gitters .22 Crosman 140 (1955) .177 Crosman G1 (2009) .177 Crosman 1377 (2009) .177 Daisy 880 (2019) BB Daisy Red Ryder (2012) BB Daisy Buck (2019) BB Crosman 1600 (1980) BB Marksman 1010 (1979)   Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:20 am broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands Crosman140 wrote: Yet, as you said...a hawk can sit there and rip out the entrails of a rabbit as it lies there breathing and heart beating watching the whole act upon itself. I don't get it. You're saying it's not different from an inept guy with an unefficient gun blasting a critter painfully to smithereens? Nature is cruel, but acts like that according to instincts. We have the conscience to judge our own deeds. Yes, we can blow a critter to pieces, but the fact that we don't have to makes it different. A hawk has to rip the rabbit apart because it won't be able to chew the darn thing. If the animal isn't dead, how can the Hawk help that. He couldn't just buy himself better claws or something. We can buy ourselves a better gun. _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:24 pm Crosman140 Senior Member Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 663 Location: USA Take a deep breath man. Life is good. Just for that, I might run out and buy a Red Ryder and shoot my neighbor's dog. My sarcasm runs deep and is all about having fun and enjoying life. Hmm...perhaps I'll just have to stick with straight talk in this forum. Sorry. _________________ My Critter Gitters .22 Crosman 140 (1955) .177 Crosman G1 (2009) .177 Crosman 1377 (2009) .177 Daisy 880 (2019) BB Daisy Red Ryder (2012) BB Daisy Buck (2019) BB Crosman 1600 (1980) BB Marksman 1010 (1979)   Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:47 pm Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA Quote: buy a Red Ryder and shoot my neighbor's dog. Isn't it usually cats that send a thread careening into a death spiral around here? _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:27 pm Crosman140 Senior Member Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 663 Location: USA _________________ My Critter Gitters .22 Crosman 140 (1955) .177 Crosman G1 (2009) .177 Crosman 1377 (2009) .177 Daisy 880 (2019) BB Daisy Red Ryder (2012) BB Daisy Buck (2019) BB Crosman 1600 (1980) BB Marksman 1010 (1979)   Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:02 pm dummyracer36 Senior Member Joined: 21 Sep 2008 Posts: 723 Location: St. Louis, Missouri no slavia, its not caTs... caNs just for a "red mist effect" i shall purchase several cans of tomato sauce... and post the gory details!!! _________________ "not tonight dear, i have a race in the morning"   Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:01 pm Crosman140 Senior Member Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 663 Location: USA YES! I can't wait. _________________ My Critter Gitters .22 Crosman 140 (1955) .177 Crosman G1 (2009) .177 Crosman 1377 (2009) .177 Daisy 880 (2019) BB Daisy Red Ryder (2012) BB Daisy Buck (2019) BB Crosman 1600 (1980) BB Marksman 1010 (1979)   Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:16 am kanyon Silver Status Member Joined: 09 Aug 2008 Posts: 1582 Location: New Zealand broommaster2000 wrote: Crosman140 wrote: Yet, as you said...a hawk can sit there and rip out the entrails of a rabbit as it lies there breathing and heart beating watching the whole act upon itself. I don't get it. You're saying it's not different from an inept guy with an unefficient gun blasting a critter painfully to smithereens? Nature is cruel, but acts like that according to instincts. We have the conscience to judge our own deeds. Yes, we can blow a critter to pieces, but the fact that we don't have to makes it different. A hawk has to rip the rabbit apart because it won't be able to chew the darn thing. If the animal isn't dead, how can the Hawk help that. He couldn't just buy himself better claws or something. We can buy ourselves a better gun. " inept guy with a unefficient gun blasting a critter painfuly to smithereens" talk about putting yer own spin on what has been said. I'm sure 140 said he killed it stone cold dead with one shot. So in that situration the gun was up to the task. Unfortinitly hunting is very diffrent to the sterile condictions of a shooting range. _________________ Career Infinity PCP .22 Webley Patriot .25 Hatsan mod 75 .22 Hatsan mod 99 .177 (Quattro & SAS) Kral underlever .177 ............................................. . 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