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stewartlittle · Member

OK,I have'nt got my R9 yet (tomorrow) and I dont think I'm even gonna hunt with it.
But I've reading and seen all the game you guys shoot.

How many shots do you miss compared to what you hit?

Like a squarrel/rabbit head shot at 25,40 yards?

Do you sometimes miss the lethal shot and use a second shot?

I'm sure it happens,but it does'nt bother me as much if you are trying for a clean kill and have to use a second shot in the head v/s someone just shootin it in the body several times trying to kill it and seeing it suffer needlessly (I think kids fall into this catagory mostly).

BCSteel · Member

This seems like a pointless thread that will only stir up a sh!t storm, especially since you already answered your question in your own post.

stewartlittle · Member

Well,you may be right.But I was just wondering if someone says they shot a squarrel in the head at 30 yards,whats the chances of them hitting it in the head.Certainly not 100% all the time.
Maybe I should've left the last part out,and maybe part of the answer is in there,but still aint the answer I'm lookin for.

As I recall from when I use to hunt,it sure was easy to take a deer with a 30-30 or 30-06.And I'm sure air rifles are very different from a firearm.
Well,maybe I can answer another part of it,Know your limitations.

dummyracer36 · Senior Member

the sh!t storm aside, i'll answer.

to be perfectly honest, i miss the animal COMPLETELY 75% of the time. i do not aim for body shots, head shots only. animals are not static targets... they tend to move of their own accord. i can center hole a poker chip at 30 yards 9 out of 10 times, but a squirrel head i miss most of the time. and, for reasons stated in the original question, aiming for a heart shot that will probably hit the animal in a none lethal zone is out of the question, for me at least.
the big difference between powder burner hunting and airgun hunting, is knowing what you and the rifle can do. a body shot from a powder burner is much more likely to be lethal than the same shot from an airgun.

cw · Banned

That depends on which airgun. Some airguns deliver so much shock
value that shot placement is a lot less critical. Anyone that has hunted
with a Condor or one of the high powered Korean airrifles will know
what am I talking about.

Rogerflat · Silver Status Member

Less than perfect shots are a part of all hunting. Of course people miss their shots and of course the shots that hit don't always hit thier mark directly. The percentage of those occurrences are based on how big of animal you are hunting and how far away it is. Also depends on how good a marksman you are and how good of a rifle you have.

rsterne · Moderator

I find I miss completely about 50% of the time when taking head shots at Grouse.... about half of those are because the bird moved just as I pulled the trigger.... the other half are undoubtedly me.... Embarassed

I have learned never to take a body shot as the chances of losing the bird are just too great.... and what a terrible waste that is.... Crying or Very sad

I'd sooner have a clean miss and try again another day.... Twisted Evil

Bob

Rogerflat · Silver Status Member

I won't argue for going for head shots, but on a bird at least, a center of mass shot is "good enough", especially considering the head is such a small, and often moving target. Body shots can go wrong and the bird can escape and probably die a slow death from infection, but if you are confident in your shooting and aim right, then this shouldn't happen often.

You will kill more birds aiming for the center of mass then you will by aiming for the head, imho. However you may wound more that way unfortunately.

kanyon · Silver Status Member

Of the bunnys I kill only about 50%
of them are dead with 1 shot so I have
to put a 2nd though the head at point
blank range.
there are a few running around with
my pellets in them, unfortunitly with a springer
you just can't get a 1 shot kill everytime.
"I hear the bleeding hearts winding up as I type"
Yer don't have this prob with a PCP as I
have never had a runner that has been hit
with the Evanix.

broommaster2000 · Moderator

If one only get 50% good hits, then one might consider either changing his technique, or just stop hunting.

Up to a certain point, one has the responsibility to hold back.

One needs to consider if the animal really has to die, is the chosen technique really going to suffice, etc. There's a lot of things a hunter should take into consideration.

The harder it gets, though, the more fulfilling it will be!

kanyon · Silver Status Member

broommaster2000 · Moderator

Actually, I'm pro child abuse. I don't like children. I also don't like dogs. They're not very smart and they are mostly unreliable leeching creatures we merely allow around the house.

By the way, what has child abuse and dog fighting to do with hunting?

I'm not a tree hugger if that's what you think, but I'm trying to keep up this forum's policy.

If you're looking to stir up mutated sh!t, you shouldn't really be posting here.

Besides, I'm not ordering you to become a better hunter. I'm just telling people to try harder and keep up the good work. That's pretty much my job here.

This topic started off to improve people's hunting skills. I take hunting seriously, and the topic starter plus most posters take it seriously too. I expect nothing more from people.

I personally like to see things happen efficiently, that includes child abuse (you're not a good parent unless your kid is hiding in the corner), dog fighting (a good dog is a dog with another one clinging to it's throat) and hunting; to efficiently end life in a subtle, sporty and manly way. (That last subject isn't a joke).

Look what yo made me do. I took up to much page again... Neutral