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cw · Banned

The break downs might be a bit much for
some peoples tastes, but these guys are kickin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3BfbNNl9tI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C0fr4O_Svs&feature=related

I dedicate this to bush and all of the other warmongers out there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICL-4Onk0PA&feature=related

thepaladin · Senior Member

I just wondered Eric....is this the kind of innocent thread that I should just not comment on? After all, I might hurt smoe feelings.

AirGunEric · Site Admin

You can comment on whatever you like, but if insults and name calling directed at other members here start being posted- we have a problem.

billandbeaufort · Senior Member

cw, the first two I had to red x as soon as I saw the Dredlocks. the last makes me wonder what you would have us do with our enemies, sing Kumbiya and hope they will leave us alone? I am no stranger to war protest (Viet Nam) however there is now an evil that wants us all dead. Talking (20 years in Iran) does no good. They hate us and are willing to die for thier twisted cult just to do us harm. Anyone who has seen the Bud commercial where the Clydesdales bow toward the skyline where the Twin Towers stood and 3000 of our fellow countrymen and women and kids were crushed or incinerated, and yet still says we should talk to our enemies, is living in a fantasy land. Nuke em!

cw · Banned

Yeah, that broke my heart what they did to the world
trade center. Who would of thought that they would
stage that just to have an excuse to go to war for oil.
Maybe this next time they'll boot the warmongers out
and we can have peace for a while.

thepaladin · Senior Member

Again, pointless. Insistance that the US brought down the towers has been thourghly debunked, but it won't matter. I'm not a big fan of FDR, but I don't think he "master minded" Perl harbor, but the theory is still there and will continue to be. I a lot of conspirery theories (and I don't deny that conspiries can exist, but you have to think) facts don't matter. Once the mind is made up facts can be explained away or ignored.

23ib0d0n · Moderator

Debunked?

So who set up the demolition charges in advance?

cw · Banned

Yeah, I want to know who cut that steel? I wonder if
bush knows?

thepaladin · Senior Member

Look, eric I'm not calling names I'm asking a question. Can you read? This has been studied to the nth degree since the Rosi Os of the world started spouting sudoscience. Meatl fatigue and change in tinsel strength due to temperature change are simple principles.

Ok, I'm done I suddenly came to myself. I could have you there as the beams turned brittle and it wouldn't do any good. Look, try heating up a good knife blade to beyony red hot and see what you've got. you'll have a knife with ruined temper unless you know exactly how to quench it. the steel in those beams was coated with jet fuel, the entire area was then covered with hot debrees. The bweams couldn't bear the weight. the secondary buildings were put under strain they weren't designed to bear.

I know this won't make any difference because if you really want to know thw information is out there. Any authority or writer that disagrees with your preconcieved ideas can simply be dismissed as part of the conspiricy no matter how inocuaus. That's why I picked out Pop. Mech. It's a mag that's been around forever and appeals to common people. there are plenty of other sources if you care to look.

AirGunEric · Site Admin

thepaladin · Senior Member

sorry, I was asking the "poster" of the conspiricy post if they could read. I'm probably a little hyper sinsitive. The whole conspiricy 9/11 thing has been done so long. Oh well.

Shakeyupnorth · Member

Of the "debunked" elements to the whole 9/11 tragedy, I have been having trouble finding explanations as to how cell phones can work in a jet plane at 10 000 feet going 500 miles per hour. Even if they were flying lower (not indicated) the problem of "signal handoff" between cells is tough to overcome. Also, since large planes are often built out of metal the whole structure acts as a giant faraday cage and interferes with signals. Also, what about the total lack of debris at the Pentagon? I don't think the planes that hit the towers were empty, but I have read transcripts of some of the cell phone calls and some seemed sort of strange, like the guy who phoned his mom but used his first and last name. The big theory is that neo-cons knew about the plot, exploited it and the calls were faked to help the cause.
I'm not saying I buy into these conspiracy things, I mean even Lee Harvey Oswald COULD have acted alone. Why would the Warren Commission lie?. I just want an explanation for the cell phone thing, the lack of debris at the Pentagon, and maybe one to explain the thermate traces at ground zero along with the clean cuts of the beams. Seriously, any expanations? I don't watch Rosie.

Before 9/11 the U.S. had about 7% of the worlds recoverable oil and now they directly control about 25% .

23ib0d0n · Moderator

I worked heavy industrial construction as an engineer for over 2 decades, and a 500°f jetfuel fire does not cause metal to fatigue. If it did, then engines would melt off the wings during taxi.

This stuff isn't 'guesswork' on my part. Those building were brought down intentionally, and what ever the reason for the smoke and mirrors "hijacked planes" theatrics hasn't yet been disclosed.

What is known: no steel beam buildings have ever "pancake collapsed" due to fire. Lemme repeat - NONE, EVER.

"Why" is open for debate, but the "publicity released" story of "how" simply defies all the laws of physics and constuction engineering known.

http://911lies.org/WTC_collapse_demolition_explosions.html

thepaladin · Senior Member

I've just read several sights on the NET on this. While I still believe that you're.....incorrect. You certainly aren't alone.

Of course, I found as many spots that believed that there were bombs in the buildings left by Arab terrorists to supliment the planes impact that there isn't what might be called a concsences.

There are of course reputible reports on redistribution of stress and atomization of the jet fuel, but I doubt you'd be interested in those. i noticed the conspiricy sights had far more hits.

broommaster2000 · Moderator

Maybe those pictures pictures were photoshopped.

By the way, when were those pictures taken? Who knows, they might have been looking for people and had to cut down those beams to get to the bodies.

Then, what do I know. I was doing my newspaper-round when it happened.