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thepaladin · Senior Member

Again, not commenting on my own poliyical leanings....my main concern now is getting "strict constructionist" judges on the court who believe that the Constitution means exactly what it says. I have over my life (I'm 56) seen so many rights corroded away and heard so many promiese from washington that simply turned out to be expediant words, that i wonder what kind of country my grand kids will have.

We are all equal, which is a great thing about the forum here by the way, and we need to treasure the rights handed down to us and accept the responsibilities that go with them. To quote Lincoln, "malaice toward none and charity toward all."

Rogerflat · Silver Status Member

Speaking of equality and your friend Abe Lincoln....were you aware some of the other things he said about equality?

23ib0d0n · Moderator

Rogerflat · Silver Status Member

23ib0d0n,

Put down the David Icke book, grab your air rifle and a handful of pellets, and go take a walk outside and blast some tin cans or something.

23ib0d0n · Moderator

Rogerflat · Silver Status Member

Ok, so if you haven't read David Icke, READ HIM! It sounds like he's right up your alley. Once you get past the whole "shape shifting lizzards thing" he's really quite thought provoking. Your references to NWO and this clandestine elite and the unending conspiracy theories reminds me of his work.

Not sure if all of this hoopla had any point or if you were suggesting that the "sheeple" speak out and defy their puppet masters. But if you are, I'd refer you back to what happened to the folks in that fiery photo that you like to plaster in your posts.

So much for defiance, eh?

4950cycle · Member

Roger, I'm afraid he is probably mostly right because those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. "Simple fact" .BTW what is a sheeple ? A sheep ?

broommaster2000 · Moderator

I feel like I want to react to all of this, but somehow I'm drawn to do the opposite.

Dang, I already went there.

4950cycle · Member

I don't want to appear to stupid. So allow me to say I forgot to put a Laughing

after that sheeple question I asked.

23ib0d0n · Moderator

AirGunEric · Site Admin

I believe the point being made, simply, is that the organized bodies of the world that wish to control people have always had to find a "scapegoat" or "target" for the people to focus their attentions upon while they carry out their plans in the background behind closed doors. The motivations have always been the same: power, influence and finance. From the start of human civilization, interests have been advanced through finding a scapegoat for the perceived ills of society and reaching a resolution through violent and often merciless bloodshed.

The latter half of the 20th Century and now the 21st Century has seen scapegoats ranging from Jews/Germans, to communists in the Soviet Union, to the "great Satan" of Saddam Hussein, to terrorists. When all these "grand" scapegoats go silent for periods of time, domestic murder and gun issues become the "great evil" of the modern world.

When liberties are increasingly removed from society, or more specifically, removed from the individuals that make up a society- the planners and plotters rejoice in the job of attaining their goals- whatever these goals may be- becoming easier.

The current decision of the U.S. Supreme Court seems to almost be a kick in the nuts to those that are seemingly trying to diminish peoples rights and privileges through the tools of fear and scapegoating.

The fact that the vote was ONLY 5 to 4 to kick the "New World Order" planners in the sack is disturbing (whether this was intended or not)- especially as the Second Amendment, to any arsehole reading it, seems to be fairly clear.

One thing I do have an issue with is the idea of government being the "tyrant" of the modern world. I think we have become more advanced than this- our modern-day "Kings" are short-lived. Government, in my opinion, is only the enabler of the tyrant(s). The actual tyrant/tyrants are the larger multi-national corporations that would like nothing better than for everyone to be addicted to their products. By the very nature of being a large corporation- the values that govern society and the things we would term "morals" and "ethics" are effectively meaningless and not relevant in the purest forms of the pursuit of making money/"improving shareholder return".

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4950cycle · Member

Thanks fellas, Now I get to go to bed with a knawing feeling in my stomach. While saying to myself, There is absolutly no hope of a good and pure tomorrow. Only brutal bloodshed and misery with the sound of the battle cry in the background for the next days onslaught. Sleep tight guys Razz

thepaladin · Senior Member

In the end the fault for loss of rights will always lay at the foot of the people who lost those rights. The ones who didn't think they needed to pay attention to the ones who were "ruling" them. The idea here in America was originally that we would not have any permenant ruling class. But we do. Most people will vote the "good old boy" who's been "supposed to be representing them" back to Washington despite the discovery of any dishonesty. We will vote the guy in who promises to "bring the most money back to our state or district", even though the country is trillions in debt. The conglomerates and giant companied are guilty of the same thing all humans are, greed and lack of vision. The truth is we can't force through law honesty or honor. We can't convince those who think those things are niave to live by them. Passing laws won't work if the people themselves won't change because they realize it's the only thing that will work. The CEOs of those mulitnational companies are in the same spot as the proverbial frog in the heating water, they'll cook with the rest of us, even if they don't know it.

All we can do is live honerablly and honestly ourselves, even if the people around us continue to think we're "behind the times".

Too many of our "citizens" are more concerned about which is the latest starlet to get drugged out or have an auto accident than about anything of consiquence.

Ya I know, i'm a real cheerful type...... Like John Adams I hope, just a little.