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cjs · Member

Hello all,

I am new to this board and to airguns. I have been looking at different Gamo, Beeman, and RWS rifles. As far as I know there are no clubs or competitions for airguns in my area, so I am mainly interested in a rifle that I can plink with, but I would like it to be fairly accurate also. From some of the reading I have done, it sounds like I will have to get it tuned to get good performance out of it. I don't have a problem with that, but which rifle, in your opinions is a good shooter out of the box?

I know I am going to get mixed views, but I want your opinions on a good, out of the box, rifle. I also have read that it may take some getting used to airguns, so that is another reason for the gun to be fairly accurate out of the box. I want to be able to tell if I am getting better without having to worry about how consistent the rifle is.

Please let me know what you think.
Thank you.
-Chris
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AirGunEric · Site Admin

Of the three brands you are looking at: Gamo, Beeman and RWS (Diana)- only the Gamo is likely to need a tune (not all Gamo's need a tune out-of-the-box, but many do). Beeman guns are either made in China or Turkey for them (i.e. the SS- and GH- series guns as well as the ones that are of the "1000 series" variety- i.e. a 1024 and such), but the 'R' and 'HW' series guns are all made in Germany with a few minor modifications done for Beeman by Weihrauch (the actual manufacturer) and generally speaking need no tuning done when new. Same goes for RWS spring guns- they are Diana products from Germany as well and generally are very good straight out-of-the-box.

Anyways- some Gamo's will need tuning, some not. The Beeman SS series guns are cheap, but are generally accurate although sometimes lacking in power. The Beeman 'R' and 'HW' series, and the RWS/Diana's shouldn't need anything- unless they are broken.

Personally, I like the Diana (RWS) guns- but the HW guns are also very very good. If you want to minimize your chances of getting a "project" I would advise getting one of them. Do you have a budget in mind for this? Any specific guns you have been considering?

BBGun Bob · Veteran Member

cjs · Member

Eric and Bob,

Thank you for the information. How do I tell if it is the "R" or "HW" series? Does it say in the model name? As far as price range goes, I am just looking right now, to see what I want to buy. There is no need for me to spend $1000 on an air rifle, but I would if I found the one I wanted to have. I don't know if that helps explain it, lol Smile

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-Chris
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cjs · Member

Oh yeah, I am from Central Iowa.
-Chris
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AirGunEric · Site Admin

RWS is Diana- they put the name 'RWS' on them only in the U.S.

Beeman's model numbers start with an 'R' like 'R7" or an 'HW' like 'HW77'.

The RWS 92 Bob mentioned is a smoking deal- but many of us are not in the U.S. and importing guns (any guns) from one country to another can be problematic- otherwise 1/2 the people here would likely be ordering one!

BBGun Bob · Veteran Member

HW is Weihrauch and RWS is (Dynamit Nobel) they are two different companys.
You can not mistake them.RWS are distributed in USA by UMAREX.
Look here: http://www.umarexusa.com/rws.aspx.
We just went thru this with another guy 100 questions later he had still not made up his mind on what to buy nor had he bought his gun.
Do your homework and research a few guns.Read what you can , and find out what you like and don't like about each gun.Then make a choice.Its that simple.A million questions to us in this forum is not going to solve your personal prefences.YOU HAVE TO DO THAT! I think your questions have been answered here pretty satifactory by now.
I suggest you buy your self a gun whether it is $19.95 or $1500.95 it doesn't matter to anyone in this forum.Note what you like and don't like about it.Then you will know what you really want or need for your personal needs in an air rifle.You can always sell the first one for close to what you paid for it if you do not abuse it,and keep it looking like the day you got it.
Remember every scratch,dent,or screw up you do will ruin its value for resale forever.Treat Like an egg shell

Bye bye and Good Luck
Let us know what you bought
Then we can help you

Respectfully
BBGub Bob
In Michigan

AirGunEric · Site Admin

Uh Oh- Bob's getting flashbacks of events gone wrong here in the past!

But he has a point- determine the price range that will work for you, and any other requirements that you need to fulfill. I think you've got the right idea in respect to accuracy being primary- and the guns you have been looking at, for the most part, are very accurate.

Good luck and keep us posted on what you finally decide to try.

cjs · Member

Wow, you guys are straight to the point! I like it!
Thanks for the help.
-Chris
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Bhargav · Veteran Member

Hey Chris welcome to the forum. Well all your questions are pretty much answered in the above posts but i went through the same condition/confusion when i was planning to buy my first Air pistol.

Just want to share some of my experiences, i always wanted to see an Airgun in real before i went and bought it but it never happeend as i have very few shops who sell airguns and almost no airgun clubs at all so go to vidoes.google.com or youtube and search for videos on particular airgun type or model. You will find tonnes of them which will give you a complete idea of how a gun is in real and you will see it shooting.

Good luck and do post pics when you buy your gun or else you have to pay $5 fine Wink

Happy Shooting !!

cjs · Member

Haha, thanks for the advice Bhargav!
-Chris
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Westonhill · Member

Use this as a reference - Best airguns for the money.

cjs · Member

Thanks Weston.
-Chris
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cjs · Member

OK everyone, I think I have narrowed my search down alot in the last week or so, but I have a couple more questions and I would also like to get your opinions on my picks.

First, what is the difference between the Weihrauch HW77 and HW95. I only see that the HW95 only comes in .177, what about the HW77?

Also, in your opinion, which is the most accurate of the Air Force guns? Condor, Talon, or Talon SS? And with which power method; PCP or CO2?

I know that I want one of the guns above (HW77, HW95, Condor, Talon, or Talon SS), but want your opinions (pros and cons) of whichever you have experience with.

I would also like to tinker with a cheap Chinese springer, if you have any ideas for that.

Thanks.
-Chris
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broommaster2000 · Moderator

If you are going for a Weihrauch, you are bettere of with either the HW97K, or maybe you an start with a HW30S, or a HW50S. Those are good starting rifles. The HW77 needs a bit more of a developed technique to shoot.

Don't let high FPS-rates blind you. Accuracy and quality is very important too, as you might have already read here.

For tinkering, you could also try to get your hands on a Slavia 630.

Another advice: Buy a rifle that is price-tight and keeps his worth. This always goes for Weihrauch Rifles.

One last advice: Second hand rifles are cheaper, and have a bit more personality. I don't know how a used rifle looks over where you live, but over here you can find plenty of rifles that have been used by professionals and are in a very good state.

If you choose for a CO2 Rifle, get the Airmagnum 850. Can't go wrong there.

A bit of a late reaction, but I think that on an international forum you'll at least need some European big mouth too. Mr. Green