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Air Gun Home Forum Index » BB Guns » Most accurate BB gun.    View previous topic :: View next topic  Most accurate BB gun.   Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:25 pm Robw Veteran Member Joined: 30 Jan 2013 Posts: 441 What is the most accurate BB gun out there (excluding brass barrel and CO² guns)? I do not care about fps, only accuracy. Has any company ever offered a target/target style BB gun. Would round lead BBs increase accuracy? Rob. _________________ Getting in a rush only slows you down. Reflect Jesus Christ-Not your surroundings.   Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:39 pm Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA Quote: What is the most accurate BB gun out there (excluding brass barrel and CO² guns)? Assuming you're also excluding lead BB's in rifled bores, it is reputedly the (Daisy) Avanti 499 with ground Avanti shot. It is a muzzle-loading gun often used in youth leagues at 5 meters. http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Daisy_Avanti_Champion_499/617 http://airgun-academy.pyramydair.com/blog/page/2/?s=avanti+499 _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego! Accurate 499   Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:46 pm CENTURION Member Joined: 18 Jan 2013 Posts: 71 I just purchased a new 499B last week, for an open sight gun it is very accurate in my 35ft. basement range, good build quality, reliable and shoots smoothe. I can get 1 inch groups with it, and will probably improve with time, this gun feels like it has it in it. It's only 240 FPS and it is a single muzzle load shot. I was also astonished what a Red Ryder with a scope will do, I can pick off anything inside of 35 ft. I have the Daisy 25 and am also surprised on the accuracy of it for a $41 gun.   Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:24 pm radar Silver Status Member Joined: 13 Nov 2011 Posts: 1138 Location: Des Moines, Iowa, USA Way cool Centurion. I been wanting one of those too, for a long time. _________________ It's never too late to have a happy childhood.   Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:30 pm Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA I have a model 99, which is the predecessor (before they put precision barrels in them). The triggers on these guns are pretty nice for a stamped sheet metal BB gun - a compound design (multiple levers to isolate the trigger from the force required to hold the piston). It's not just a Red Ryder with a different stock: The 99 is a repeater, and uses the same spring-fed tubular magazine/shot tube as the Model 25. The 499 is a single shot muzzle loader. The removable shot tube is a great idea for range safety with a bunch of inexperienced shooters - a range officer can tell at a glance that the gun is disabled. Here's the 499 manual: http://www.daisy.com/_manuals/499_499B_manual_english.pdf And some more things on the 99/299/499's history: http://air-guns-pneumatic-pnews.blogspot.com/2006/07/daisy-499-worlds-most-accurate-bb-gun.html http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2008/05/daisy-avanti-499-champion-part-1-worlds.html _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego! Model 25   Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:27 am CENTURION Member Joined: 18 Jan 2013 Posts: 71 The 25 is a great gun,I have the 125th anniversary edition in the box , and the chinese production model in the photo. For $42 the quality and accuracy is very good and no missed feeds like the red ryder. They are also very quiet, wife doesn't hear anything upstairs. Those two older versions are vety cool.   Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:03 pm Robw Veteran Member Joined: 30 Jan 2013 Posts: 441 Muzzle loader? You mean that you drop a BB down the muzzle to load it? Once the BB is loaded will the gun retain it when the muzzle is pointed down? _________________ Getting in a rush only slows you down. Reflect Jesus Christ-Not your surroundings.   Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:16 pm CENTURION Member Joined: 18 Jan 2013 Posts: 71 Robw wrote: Muzzle loader? You mean that you drop a BB down the muzzle to load it? Once the BB is loaded will the gun retain it when the muzzle is pointed down? Yes a magnet holds it in, I suspect they made it this way because the tolerance they held on the barrel, thus making it is accurate as it is. It loads quickly, and is not that much of a problem. With this type of shooting you're taking your time anyway. It is a nice shooting, smoothe gun.   Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:50 pm Robw Veteran Member Joined: 30 Jan 2013 Posts: 441 Does the BB take a while to make it to the breech or is it a loose enough fit that the BB drops to breech quickly when released into the muzzle? _________________ Getting in a rush only slows you down. Reflect Jesus Christ-Not your surroundings.   Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:15 am CENTURION Member Joined: 18 Jan 2013 Posts: 71 Robw wrote: Does the BB take a while to make it to the breech or is it a loose enough fit that the BB drops to breech quickly when released into the muzzle? It's pretty quick, you can crank off 25 shots before you know it. A repeater like the model 25 would have been a bit nicer, but for a target gun it it is still ok.   Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:39 am shawn706 Member Joined: 08 Jun 2013 Posts: 95 Location: Madison County Georgia The 499 is untouchable at 5 meters. It's capable of same hole accuracy. Unfortunatly Daisy doesn't have any compititon in this market so the quality of the guns has gone down over the years. Of the 7 new guns my team purchaced this past year we had to send 5 back because of defects. Most often bad shot tubes. Damaged plungers are the worst because the gun can shoot good for several shots drop one in the 4 or 5 ring on ocasion. If you can find an older one, before they added the avanti name, chances are you'll have a better gun.   Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:15 pm toadmyster223 Senior Member Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Posts: 501 Location: Fayette Nam, PA My money is still on the Marksman 1790- its not REALLY a BB gun but you can press one lightly against the seal and it shoots them handily.   Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:18 am Luposian New Member Joined: 06 Dec 2014 Posts: 11 Location: Sierra Vista, AZ shawn706 wrote: The 499 is untouchable at 5 meters. It's capable of same hole accuracy. Unfortunatly Daisy doesn't have any compititon in this market so the quality of the guns has gone down over the years. Of the 7 new guns my team purchaced this past year we had to send 5 back because of defects. Most often bad shot tubes. Damaged plungers are the worst because the gun can shoot good for several shots drop one in the 4 or 5 ring on ocasion. If you can find an older one, before they added the avanti name, chances are you'll have a better gun. How on earth do you get same hole accuracy, unless you have the gun mounted to a rigid support? You mean someone can actually hold the gun THAT steady and actually put a second BB right through the hole of the previous one? That IS impressive!   Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:06 am shawn706 Member Joined: 08 Jun 2013 Posts: 95 Location: Madison County Georgia Correct. V-block type bench rest. We run about 30 shots through our compitition guns this way every year.   Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:03 am Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA Quote: Of the 7 new guns my team purchaced this past year we had to send 5 back because of defects. Most often bad shot tubes History repeats itself. That's exactly why Daisy came out with the 499 - coaches were returning the 99 shot tubes until they got a good one. _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego! 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