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Air Gun Home Forum Index » Rifles » German Houseguest Goto page 1, 2  Next    View previous topic :: View next topic  German Houseguest   Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:47 pm Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA This Walther LGR recently came to visit. It's on loan for a couple of weeks to chronograph. From what I have read, the LGR was the dominant gun for international 10m competition in the 1970's and 1980's. It is a side lever, single stroke pneumatic design. It shoots about 530 FPS. At 10m it just keeps shoving pellets down the same little hole. At 25 yards it does the same thing, but the (single) hole is a bit bigger. I am under orders to not modify it in any way, and the owner has enlisted both the wife and daughter to enforce that. Still, I am learning a lot that can be employed later in my own projects - things like how the grip is shaped, what "real" stippling looks like, and how a competition trigger feels. It's way out of my league, but fun for a couple of weeks. Achtung! Der monkeytinkering mit der luft gewehr ist verbotten. _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:34 am SMP Silver Status Member Joined: 04 Feb 2011 Posts: 1183 Location: Just south of "Out There"- Land O Lakes Ontario Beautiful gun Slavia! Yes the LGR supplanted the FWB 300 sliding block as the dominant rifle in world cup competition. It's still used today by a number of shooters and does reasonably well. I'm totally envious. Vintage masterpieces like that never appear on the canadian market. _________________ Sean   Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:36 am SMP Silver Status Member Joined: 04 Feb 2011 Posts: 1183 Location: Just south of "Out There"- Land O Lakes Ontario If you get a chance could you post a picture of the loading port and breech block? _________________ Sean   Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:39 am Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA To load, you lift the tab on the right: The trap hinges up and forward, exposing the breech: The trap has PTFE seals at either end: A nice feature is a variable geometry cocking arm. Kind of like a two-stage trigger in reverse - the lever "shifts gears" at the end of the stroke for more mechanical advantage: The trigger is fairly simple, but beautifully smooth and with a clear transition into stage two. It is adjustable for reach, cant, stage two discharge point, weight, and slack going into stage one: The design is a single-stroke pneumatic, so no spring recoil. The valve is held open with a cam when the "hammer" wedges into it, so no valve bounce: _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:13 am ZipSnipe Veteran Member Joined: 09 Mar 2012 Posts: 327 Wow great drawings!!. While the trigger looks interesting, I see two adjustments I would have left out of it. It has 3 adjustments right? Too much adjustment makes me wonder about it going out of adjustment when you don't need it too. Otherwise great looking gun and design.   Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:43 am Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA The diagrams are straight from the manual. _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:22 pm Big Ern Veteran Member Joined: 31 Aug 2011 Posts: 357 Location: Miami Fl. Wow very nice rifle indeed! Happy babysitting Slav...   Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:57 am Mark5043 Silver Status Member Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 1379 What a beauty!...Enjoy! _________________   Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:30 am SMP Silver Status Member Joined: 04 Feb 2011 Posts: 1183 Location: Just south of "Out There"- Land O Lakes Ontario very very cool I wonder how hard it would be to apply that variable geometry to your average pumper? _________________ Sean   Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:12 am AirGunEric Site Admin Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 6930 Location: "Out There" Dare I ask what such an animal sells for in the used market? _________________ ` I'd say "I care." But I'd be lying. Canadian Airgun Supplier: http://www.scopesandammo.com/storefront Re: German Houseguest   Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:08 am broommaster2000 Moderator Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 5714 Location: City of Groningen, Groningen, The Netherlands Slavia wrote: From what I have read, the LGR was the dominant gun for international 10m competition in the 1970's and 1980's. It is a side lever, single stroke pneumatic design. It shoots about 530 FPS. At 10m it just keeps shoving pellets down the same little hole. At 25 yards it does the same thing, but the (single) hole is a bit bigger. I would like to point out that when you look at the availability of the Walther LGR in comparison to the FWB300 nowadays, you would be surprised of the manufacturer who did the dominating. In terms of numbers that is. The Walther must have been more desirable though, because of the SSP design, though I don't think that they are more or less accurate then one another. Yes, I am saying that I don't believe one is that much or at all better then the other. I think they stopped producing the FWB300 in the early 90's. _________________ BIG GAP   Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:09 pm Roy Veteran Member Joined: 01 May 2008 Posts: 129 Location: Wisconsin Slavia, Nice rifle. I wish I owned it... wait a minute... I DO OWN IT ! Yippee! Nice report. Velocity of 530fps? That's a bit under the typical 570fps for these ssps, but, if it's single-hole accurate, who really cares? The ugly stock will be refinished with a brown "stain", but I'll take care of that. ~R   Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:50 pm Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA It will be on its way to the beer and cheese homeland this weekend. I'm happy to have had the opportunity to try it out - mostly because I am able to more fully appreciate what I've got. My Slavia would never win Olympic matches, but when compared to the LGR it isn't too far off the mark. That was a good lesson to learn. _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:11 pm SMP Silver Status Member Joined: 04 Feb 2011 Posts: 1183 Location: Just south of "Out There"- Land O Lakes Ontario AirGunEric wrote: Dare I ask what such an animal sells for in the used market? I don't see them very often up for sale but about 500 for an okay specimen and about 300 for an action _________________ Sean   Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:13 pm AirGunEric Site Admin Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 6930 Location: "Out There" Decided to look this thing up a bit- just seeing as how we had a price ballpark. Seems the unit shown is an 'LGR' but in an 'LGV' stock? _________________ ` I'd say "I care." But I'd be lying. 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