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Air Gun Home Forum Index » General Air Gun Questions and Topics » Off target    View previous topic :: View next topic  Off target   Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:44 pm bob66 New Member Joined: 27 Sep 2012 Posts: 7 Location: texas I am shooting the gamo varmint hunter hp .177. Shooting the gamo rocket and crosman premier ultra magnum heavy 10.5 g. When target shooting most of the time the pattern is very good, but on occasion the pellets do not group with the other shots. Is this common ? I check each pellet close to make sure their not damaged.   Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:58 am mod90 Veteran Member Joined: 04 Jun 2011 Posts: 279 IDK if you're using a rest or not, but springers are really hold-picky so your flyers may be a result of the difference in hold pattern between shots. Try to hold the gun in the exact same position each time & see if that helps. By any stretch once the gun spits its ammo accurately at least every 9 out of 10 shots you should be fine. _________________ There is no tradition greater than the hunt, passed through countless generations. For those that enjoy the hunt, no explanation is needed. For those that do not, no explanation is good enough.   Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:41 pm WestTexasFarmBoy Member Joined: 27 Oct 2011 Posts: 17 Location: 33*40'17"N, 101*32'6"W As mod90 said, hold is everything with springers. The Artillery Hold is usually mandatory, but even then where you place your off hand and how much pressure you use to grip and to hold the butt of the stock against your shoulder vary from gun to gun. You have to experiment to find what your gun likes best and then practice persistence. You did not mention how many shots you have put through your barrel, but many guns take several hundred shots to "shoot in" and become consistent. Also, personally, I would not expect Gamo Rockets to shoot consistently. Crosman Premiers marginally more so. Different guns, even identical ones, shoot different pellets most uniformly -- so experiment with a variety of those as well. Good luck and good shootin' _________________ FarmBoy's First Axiom of Forum Posting: "The only stupid question is one that should have been asked but was not even though the answer was unknown to the person who did not ask the question." Off target   Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:06 pm bob66 New Member Joined: 27 Sep 2012 Posts: 7 Location: texas I am using a rest and have shot aprox. 1000 pellets. Shooting at a distance of ( 20 yd.) 2" group 6 shots. 2 shots bulleye touching each other. Wind gusting 5 to 10 mph. Update off target   Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:19 pm bob66 New Member Joined: 27 Sep 2012 Posts: 7 Location: texas I modified rest and made 3 shot at 20yd and 3 shots at 30 yd. 1/2" group (BULL's - eye) 20 yd. 1 1/4" group at 30 yd. using gamo rockets. concentrating on holding rifle same way. Almost dark! Do I need to try different pellets?   Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:11 pm AirGunEric Site Admin Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 6908 Location: "Out There" Gamo pellets are some of the lowest quality units on the market- try something else- i.e. Crosman, H&N, JSB, just about anything other than Gamo pellets. _________________ ` I'd say "I care." But I'd be lying. Canadian Airgun Supplier: http://www.scopesandammo.com/storefront   Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:35 pm WestTexasFarmBoy Member Joined: 27 Oct 2011 Posts: 17 Location: 33*40'17"N, 101*32'6"W AirGunEric wrote: Gamo pellets are some of the lowest quality units on the market- try something else- i.e. Crosman, H&N, JSB, just about anything other than Gamo pellets. I could not agree more -- along with Daisy and Industry Brand Pellets, they are all to be avoided. JSB & H&N have samplers that are a good, economical way to try a variety of pellets: http://www.pyramydair.com/s/p/JSB_Match_Diabolo_Test_Sampler_177_Cal_Round_Nose_Pointed_4_Pellet_Types_400ct/958 http://www.pyramydair.com/s/p/H_N_Hunting_Sampler_177_Cal_6_Different_Pellets_215ct/857 And Straight Shooters also offers some samplers as well: http://www.straightshooters.com/straight-shooters-small-sampler-.177-medium.html http://www.straightshooters.com/straight-shooters-full-pellet-sampler-.177.html _________________ FarmBoy's First Axiom of Forum Posting: "The only stupid question is one that should have been asked but was not even though the answer was unknown to the person who did not ask the question."   Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:17 am garththomas Veteran Member Joined: 12 Jan 2012 Posts: 165 Location: Ontario, Canada I have found that most springers don't shoot well from a rest. That is why the artillery hold is preferred, don't squeeze the gun too hard and let the fore stock sit in your open palm. Look up "artillery hold". _________________ QB57 Backyard Sweeper Off target     Air Gun Home Forum Index » General Air Gun Questions and Topics You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum All times are GMT - 5 Hours   Page 1 of 1   All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First  Select a forum Main Forums----------------AirGunHome Q&AGeneral Air Gun Questions and TopicsPicture GalleryTarget Shooting: Casual, Fun and CompetitionHunting, Pest Control, Varminting People/Events/Airgun Issue Discussion----------------Introduce YourselfThe BS TopicClubs/Events/Regional/Political Airgun Issues Maintenance, Modification and Reviews----------------RiflesPistolsAntique, Collector and Novelty AirgunsBB GunsPellets/AmmoOpticsAccessoriesAirgun Smithing Buy, Sell or Trade Forums----------------For SaleWant to Buy   Note: If you are seeing "Please enter your username and password to log in." 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