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Air Gun Home Forum Index » Optics » Rated for airguns - where does it say so?    View previous topic :: View next topic  Rated for airguns - where does it say so?   Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:45 pm WTK New Member Joined: 20 Sep 2012 Posts: 10 I understand the need to be rated so, but in looking at several scopes lately - many listed by the distributors as such, don't seem to be by the manufacturers. Take Hawke for example. I have seen lots of Hawkes sold by airgun stores and a quote "I only stock scopes rated for airguns". But if you go to the HAWKE website, I think the only scope they state is airgun ready is the Airmax line? Also, I read a paper on benchrest shooting by someone named Charlie saying that he liked to use a Weaver V16 (but I didn't get what type of gun he was shooting). I happen to have that scope and am currently using it on my new X20. Is this a mistake? NOT GOING TO TRY MY T36. Where can we check for the proper rating?   Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:39 pm ZipSnipe Veteran Member Joined: 09 Mar 2012 Posts: 327 I would say look at the scopes that Pyramid Air and other retailers that sell airguns carry. And most likely you will find the ones rated for your gun. _________________ You can have tomorrow, I'll take yesterday !!!   Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:17 pm AirGunEric Site Admin Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 6908 Location: "Out There" Most scopes being built today are of the same basic construction- i.e. bushings and such. This is opposed to years ago when they did use different materials on true "airgun" scopes. What this means is that most reputable scopes will stand up on airguns without any more or less issues that one "rated" for airguns. The problem is that by putting the message "rated for airguns" on a scope, too many people somehow seem to think this means "only for airguns" so the manufacturers are reluctant to put this on their boxes. A perfect example of this is CenterPoint- Crosman is CenterPoiint and their biggest presumed market for their scopes are their own airguns. Yet- most of them say nothing about "airguns" on them. My point is, as long as the scope is made by a reputable company and is a new scope- not one from 20 years ago, you should have little to worry about. _________________ ` I'd say "I care." But I'd be lying. Canadian Airgun Supplier: http://www.scopesandammo.com/storefront   Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:39 pm WTK New Member Joined: 20 Sep 2012 Posts: 10 Thanks all. The reason I brought it up was there seem to be lots of parting comments posted like "just be sure it's an airgun rated scope".   Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:35 pm kodiakdan Member Joined: 13 Dec 2011 Posts: 46 Location: South Central Iowa I have always wondered about that too. I also think that higher powered springers and gas piston guns are harder on scopes. I have seen on pyramid air on certain scopes where they may say not recommended for spring guns.   Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:40 am whm1974 Veteran Member Joined: 05 Feb 2013 Posts: 337 I didn't know that scopes for firearms wasn't the same for airguns. Learned something new today.   Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:35 am radar Silver Status Member Joined: 13 Nov 2011 Posts: 1138 Location: Des Moines, Iowa, USA whm1974 wrote: I didn't know that scopes for firearms wasn't the same for airguns. Learned something new today. Some scopes, particularly older ones, were designed with firearm rearward recoil in mind. The internal lenses and maybe some other bits, too, were not supported firmly enough on both front and back. When these are used on a spring-piston air rifle, the air rifle's double recoil in forward and back directions from the heavy piston, (unlike a firearm) can jar things loose and ruin the scope. They can be used on PCP or pump-up pneumatic air rifles though. _________________ It's never too late to have a happy childhood.   Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:09 pm whm1974 Veteran Member Joined: 05 Feb 2013 Posts: 337 Thanks for explaining this radar.   Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:01 am radar Silver Status Member Joined: 13 Nov 2011 Posts: 1138 Location: Des Moines, Iowa, USA Sure thing. Airgunning is its own thing, for sure. Lots of details do not transfer directly from firearms experience. I learn something new just about everyday on these forums, and I'm not exactly a noob anymore. Spring guns are particularly different in many ways. Have you been here? http://ebookbrowse.com/the-air-gun-from-trigger-to-muzzle-pdf-d375703836 Clicking on the download button brings up the free book, (a classic) and then you can save the whole book as a pdf. (You can get Abobe reader online for free, too, if you don't have it already installed on your computer.) _________________ It's never too late to have a happy childhood.   Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:50 am whm1974 Veteran Member Joined: 05 Feb 2013 Posts: 337 Thanks. For some reason some of the links, linked to an EXE file instead of PDF. After several tries I found the right link.   Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:18 pm radar Silver Status Member Joined: 13 Nov 2011 Posts: 1138 Location: Des Moines, Iowa, USA Weird. OK, sorry, glad you found it though. It's good read. The newer version of the book, The Airgun Trigger to Target is still under copyright, and covers external ballistics as well. I have not read the new one, but be aware it is out there and can be purchased--if you can find it. _________________ It's never too late to have a happy childhood.   Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:59 pm whm1974 Veteran Member Joined: 05 Feb 2013 Posts: 337 Thanks again. I'll read it soon. Any other books?   Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:14 pm radar Silver Status Member Joined: 13 Nov 2011 Posts: 1138 Location: Des Moines, Iowa, USA whm1974 wrote: Thanks again. I'll read it soon. Any other books? That's all I know you can get for free. Did you download the free Chairgun Pro application yet? Not a book, but pretty handy for trajectories and stuff. _________________ It's never too late to have a happy childhood.   Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:04 am Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA For "Trigger to Target" go to the public library. (You do have a library card, right?) Ask them to get it through interlibrary loan. My library here in Minnesota found a copy in a Seattle library, and got it here to me for free. The Airgun From Trigger To Target G.V. Cardew, Gerard Michael Cardew Hardcover: 235 pages Publisher: G.V.& G.M.Cardew Language English ISBN-10: 0950510831 ISBN-13: 978-0950510835 Another one I like on competition shooting (lots will apply to airguns): Competitive Shooting A.A. Yuryev Publisher: Natl Rifle Assn ISBN: 0935998535 ISBN-13: 9780935998535 _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:38 am whm1974 Veteran Member Joined: 05 Feb 2013 Posts: 337 Quote: (You do have a library card, right?) I had one, but I need to get it renewed. That and I owe them 14 bucks... 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