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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:23 pm Reply with quote
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I know... it's not an air gun but... ya got to love a piece of history.

Big 5 Sporting Goods had a Labor Day Coopin for $120. It was $180 so I just had too...

The local store was out of stock so I had to wait a week with a rain check.

Boy I'm glad I did! It came with all the goodies. The other gun shops start at $140 and all you get it is the gun in "as is" condition.

The importer actually goes through each rifle, cleans the original packing grease off, checks head space, fire pin check, trigger check, cleans up the rifling & test fires guaranteeing the function and safety.

The barrels lands and groves look almost new.

The 1940's models had the round receiver and could have been made anywhere including China... this is an actual 1935 Russian Hexagon receiver.

I was considering a full on custom sniper rifle with carbon fiber tension barrel conversion to reach out to 800+ yards... but she's in such good condition, I'm not sure I want to molest her...









I got some cleaning to do.








7,62x54R vs. .22LR My shoulder is aching just looking at the ammo...


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:12 pm Reply with quote
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Pretty! I hope you wear a shoulder pad when you shoot it.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:36 pm Reply with quote
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Oh I will until the new stock is ready. It will have a recoil reduction system built in.

I spoke with my buddy that does carbon fiber and this stock is going to be awesome. Adjustable LOP and Comb.

I dropped it off at the gunsmith this morning to have the head space double checked. I just got a call and it's ready to fire safe.

These guys are fans of my work. I had no clue...
There might be an opening to be mentored by the lead gunsmith this Fall and Winter during my slow season. We'll have to see how the cards play out.

While I was typing this my buddy Nate called and he just found a 1925 version that we are going to go look at tonight after he gets off work.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:41 pm Reply with quote
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I own a few Mosins, I love how they sound like a cannon going off when you shoot them. My favorite is my short M44, with the folding bayonette. I'm the type of guy that throws up on sporterized war guns, but good luck with your project!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:16 am Reply with quote
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toadmyster223 wrote:
I own a few Mosins, I love how they sound like a cannon going off when you shoot them. My favorite is my short M44, with the folding bayonette. I'm the type of guy that throws up on sporterized war guns, but good luck with your project!


Gotta agree with you there, TM. It really sucks to live in the NL because the prices on rifles like these are quite high. Enfields used to be very affordable here up until the seventies, and you would get a whole load of surplus ammo with it. Nowadays they're either demilitarized (read "true molestation by filling the barrel with concrete and locking all the mechanisms"), owned by people with a license (only to be used on a range) or collectors.

If I can ever find a nice firearm club I'll be sure to get my hands on something old.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:36 am Reply with quote
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I found out that Big 5 has a huge stash of them. My buddy Nate just picked up a 1925 model for the same price I got mine. So I might pick up another to have a wall hanger.

Mrs. Mack wants me to fill the freezer with game meat this hunting season.
Who can say no to that?

Let the molestation begin!
ATI Monte Carlo Stock: Ordered
ATI Scope Base and Bolt Kit: Ordered

I have two BSA Mil-dot scopes still waiting to be mounted. So I'll have to pick up a set of rings soon.

Midway USA is teasing me by putting the Timney Trigger on sale...
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/559350/timney-trigger-mosin-nagant-1-1-2-to-4-lb-steel-matte

We will be making a trip to Emmett, ID soon to visit Gary at Timber Butte Outdoors to get fitted with a sling. www.timberbutteoutdoors.com
An additional stop to see Kermitt at Wild Thangs Farm to pick up a 880 count crate of silver tip Russian surplus rounds for E.T.W. survival and hunting.
They may not be the ideal round for hunting but if sh!t hits the fan we will be stocked up.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:43 am Reply with quote
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I like the stock you ordered for it. Goes well with the rest of the gun. Exclamation

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:58 am Reply with quote
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Furniture arrived this week.


Initial test firing reviled a few issues with fitting the new stock and bolt handle.
When installing the re-located bolt handle it was making contact with the receiver where it shouldn't. I thought I got it relieved enough when cycling with out ammo on the bench but as soon as you load it was still making contact and not cycling smoothly.
Also the interrupter was making contact on the inside of the stock and not allowing to load the magazine. So I had to treat it like a single shot for the day at the range.


Back to killing cans...



Back to the shop for final fitting:





All done with this stage of the build:


Big differences between .22LR, .223 Remington & 7.62x54r


The stock did it's job. After shooting 40 rounds, my shoulder was not the wiser.

Next up:
Trigger work
Barrel work
More stock work (bedding for the 1" OD carbon fiber tension barrel)
Adding and extra sling stud for a bi-pod
Muzzle Brake

I picked up a Outlaw Sling from www.timberbutteoutdoors.com at the gun show in Emmett and am dying to try it out in the field.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:31 pm Reply with quote
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must just be me but my m-44 doesnt recoil bad but noisy . my gun apperes to be a new old gun . but like my gunsmith said [he ordered it for me] it might have been a cooks gun and never got used. he and i worked for 3 hours gettin all that russian grease out of it

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:07 pm Reply with quote
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The trick to removing the bulk of the packing grease is to wrap it in news paper and black plastic. Place it under glass in direct sunlight for a day. Let it cook the grease out into the news paper.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:45 pm Reply with quote
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We was workin in the dead of winter and it was about 15 degrees outdoors and snowy, no sun so we cleaned and cleaned. however my sks was a diffrent deal. it had a week on the dash of my pickup in the summer and still had enough grease to lube my farm.tractor

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:41 pm Reply with quote
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About the recoil; I'll agree, my M44 doesn't beat me up either. I've had days where I shot 200 rounds and didn't feel nearly as sore as 20 rounds from a 30-06, or just sighting in my 7mm WSM. The recoil is like a big push, not a hard bucking kick. And of course, BA-BOOM!
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ThatGuy calls his M44 his thunder stick.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:27 am Reply with quote
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now that we mention recoil , think about this... its almost bambi season and im gettin my modded h&r buffalo classic out and gettin ready to see how its hitting. its been bored out to 45-110 and here is the load im using 500 grain roundnose , 65 grains of imr 4064+1857 f.p.s. . now that s.o.b. has some recoil but if i do my part bambi falls dead in her tracks . and it shoots a long way as it was the big gun in the early years . i wanted a sharps but cant lay down $2-3000 and wait for a build as they are backlogged 22 months . or was when i looked into them 3 years ago . bet they are still behind too .i bought the h7R NEW FOR $275 AND GAVE MY GUNSMITH $125 TO BORE IT OUT . $40 WAS FOR REAMER RENTAL . lots less $$$ and works fine but it does definatly give you a hellofa thump

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:40 am Reply with quote
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The trick to removing the bulk of the packing grease is to wrap it in news paper and black plastic. Place it under glass in direct sunlight for a day. Let it cook the grease out into the news paper.


The key is the heat - "cooking the grease out." I scrubbed for hours on my SKS with paint thinner and WD-40, just like this guy suggests:
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu23.htm

Then my brother (Roy of this forum) pointed out that Cosmoline type greases have a pretty low melting point. This source says 113 Deg. F. to 125 Deg. F.:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmoline

All I had to do was pour boiling water from a tea kettle on the metal parts. The Cosmoline melted away like magic, and the parts heated up enough to "flash dry." As a precaution I squirted WD-40 into the little nooks and crannies to displace any water that may not have evaporated.

This commercial aqueous parts washer manufacturer suggests the same thing, with the water at 185 Deg. F.:
http://www.stingraypartswasher.com/Parts_Washer_Application_-_Cosmoline_Removal.html

This technique isn't that outrageous - black powder shooters often use boiling water as a final "flash dry" rinse, followed immediately with oil, Bore Butter, or the equivalent. Also - I think I would use Joe's gentler "sun brew" method on the wood.

Now all Joe has to do is rent "Enemy At The Gates" and pretend he's Vasili Zaitsev. Kind of a resemblance, don't you think?


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