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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:13 pm Reply with quote
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i am a newb and i dont now too much about airguns so here are some questions
what does everyone mean when they say modding a gun?
where can i find these mods(websites)?
what mods can i do to my airguns(crosman 2250b and remington genises)?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:09 pm Reply with quote
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what do you want to do to your 2250? 24 inch barrel? valve volume increase. trigger tune?

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Adwar,
Modifying ,or"modding" is like souping up a car,to go faster or run better.Even handle better.There are many things that can be done to a air gun to make it better than when you get from the factory or store.You can make it more powerful,shoot faster, more accurate,make the trigger easier to pull,and change the looks of your rifle to more or less personalize it.This is just to name a few.
After you have modified it to your liking it is a one of a kind. Its all yours and you know no one else has one exactly like it.
Here is an example
The way I bought it below


This is what is looks like after modifications.It is faster more powerful and accurate as hell!





As you can see it does not even look like the same rifle.
I hope this answers your question,now start moddinng your Air Gun!

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:53 am Reply with quote
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Yup. Leadman is probably the most 'expert' guy here for modding the Crosman 22xx platform guns (the 2240, 2250 and 2260 all share the same basic internals), and Gunrunner also has some experience with this I understand. Wink

As for the Genesis, I have not had one in my hands- but it looks to be the same design as the Crosman Quest/Phantom series (Crosman builds the Remington airguns under license). When I am back at home (I'm on the road right now), I will find a Remington parts list I have laying around and confirm if the internals are the same. Do a search in the "rifles" section for Quest or Phantom and you will see the sorts of things that can/have been done to try and improve them.

There really is no one specific site or forum around for "modifications". AirGunHome was created partially to address this- but of course we talk about pretty much everything from 'A' to 'Z', but on specific models sometimes there are sites out there dedicated to being an 'archive' of some peoples modifications. I don't know of any specifically for the Genesis or the 22xx guns- more of a huge collection of posts on different forums. If you look around and have specific questions or need clarifications, by all means post up the question(s) here to get an answer.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:47 pm Reply with quote
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leadman wrote:
what do you want to do to your 2250? 24 inch barrel? valve volume increase. trigger tune?


i would like to do as much as i can
where would i find these mods?

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:49 pm Reply with quote
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BBGun Bob wrote:
Adwar,
Modifying ,or"modding" is like souping up a car,to go faster or run better.Even handle better.There are many things that can be done to a air gun to make it better than when you get from the factory or store.You can make it more powerful,shoot faster, more accurate,make the trigger easier to pull,and change the looks of your rifle to more or less personalize it.This is just to name a few.
After you have modified it to your liking it is a one of a kind. Its all yours and you know no one else has one exactly like it.
Here is an example
The way I bought it below


This is what is looks like after modifications.It is faster more powerful and accurate as hell!





As you can see it does not even look like the same rifle.
I hope this answers your question,now start moddinng your Air Gun!

Sincerly,
BBGun Bob

thank you
and what is that gun called?

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A Bam(XISICO) XS-B3-1. They are a very inexpensive air rifle which is suppose to resemble a AK-47 The cost varies from $49.95 to $56.00 depending where you buy it. They come in .177 & .22 Cal.This one I have is a .177 Cal.I am going to open it up again and try a new maccuri spring I got yesterday.(modding is a never ending hobby here).I have a Sheridan C-9 Blue Streak in .20 cal. I have apart right now.There are pictures of it somewhere in this forum.I couldn't stand it stock(there was nothing wrong with it either ! ) I just have to make air guns a little better than the way they come. After browsing the Crosman site and learning what I can do to this rifle(Sheridan) I decided to mod it.The internals are done now to the stock and barrel assembly.Seeing that the gun is made of brass I will strip off the black paint and polish it to a high brass luster.I think it will be a beauty when it is finished.
Here is the Sheridan as it was.




I'll post a picture when I finish it.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:43 pm Reply with quote
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mods for the 22xx series let me see,
http://www.spiralsol.com/airgunmod/tipstricks.asp
http://www.network54.com/Forum/275684/
http://crosmanairgunmods.blogspot.com/
http://crosmanmods.cjb.net/

that should get you started, if you have any questions about any of these mods let me know and ill see if i can help you out

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:07 pm Reply with quote
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adwar wrote:
i am a newb and i dont now too much about airguns so here are some questions
what does everyone mean when they say modding a gun?
where can i find these mods(websites)?
what mods can i do to my airguns(crosman 2250b and remington genises)?
thank you


mod websites can be found by searching google

guys i think mabe we should explain the mods saying 24" barrel or valve volume increase are we sure he knows what that means? he said he was a newb

a 24" barrel will increase the velosity and accuracy it should shoot at about 600fps
the vale mod mentioned will increase velosity probably by 25fps and also increase consistancy.
the trigger tune will be for comfort and accuracy (to a degree)

the genisis already shoots 1000fps so no power tunes are needed
i an not fimiliar with the gun so you should google it.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:10 pm Reply with quote
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The outdoorsman wrote:

guys i think mabe we should explain the mods saying 24" barrel or valve volume increase are we sure he knows what that means? he said he was a newb
i was using that statement as an indicator of how vague his question was, such as if he wanted a 500 fps airgun with a 24 inch barrel and ALOT remarkably consist shots the list of mods is different then if you want a high powered 2240 getting only 7 shots per powerlette


The outdoorsman wrote:

i an not fimiliar with the gun so you should google it.

a 24" barrel will increase the velocity and accuracy it should shoot at about 600fps
the vale mod mentioned will increase velocity probably by 25fps and also increase consistancy.
the trigger tune will be for comfort and accuracy (to a degree)



the 2240 with a 24 inch barrel and a fully modded valve stronger hammer spring (2289 spring works best) reshaped valve stem poly tube transfer port weaker valve spring. will get your 2240 shooting in the 700's depending on temperature as C02 is dependant on temperature

barrel recrown, weaker trigger spring, trigger polish and reshape will greatly increase accuracy as well,

if you bulk fill it your consistancy and shot count will go up drastically. you will also want to install some sort of stock as the 24 inch barrel, fittings, and co2 tank get heavy.

and that isnt going into hpa conversions.

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the genisis already shoots 1000fps so no power tunes are needed
i an not fimiliar with the gun so you should google it.


no power tunes are needed would be dependant on what the shooter has in mind, if the shooter wants to shoot heavy pellets the velocity could drop again, you could take the gun apart, polish the internals, main tube, piston, spring ends, you could possibly space the spring, weight the piston, and then if you want to get really involved you could button the piston, all these will increase velocity
take care

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:17 pm Reply with quote
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thank all of you guys but my local store here in florida just stopped selling crossman for some reason so i will now be getting a hamerli 850
i just dont know which caliber to get for plinking/hunting
any recomendations? mods?

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They keep changing the name on the 850 in the US Market for some reason. The "Hammerli" 850 is the Umarex AirMagnum 850. For hunting you want a .22, for shooting tin cans or targets, a .177.

Search in the "rifles" section for AM850 or Umarex 850 to see what some people have done with it.

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AirGunEric wrote:
They keep changing the name on the 850 in the US Market for some reason. The "Hammerli" 850 is the Umarex AirMagnum 850. For hunting you want a .22, for shooting tin cans or targets, a .177.

Search in the "rifles" section for AM850 or Umarex 850 to see what some people have done with it.


Or going to do to it. Wink

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There are places that sell moded guns also if you're interested here are a couple. http://www.crookedbarn.com/default.htm
http://www.mountainaircustomairguns.com/
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