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rsterne · Moderator

Well, here is the secret I've been busting to share with all of you.... my brand new DAQ .308 Exile.... Mr. Green

.... Back in January when Dennis Quackenbush opened his draw for 50 of his Outlaw Bigbore DAQ Airguns I got Joe McAllister of MuzzleMack to enter the draw for me.... When the draw was made, he got on the list, and several months later got the call from Dennis that "his" rifle was ready.... I fired off the money to Joe who sent it on to Dennis.... and when the rifle arrived in Idaho, Joe sent me the Serial Number to register it.... Another month of waiting, I got the registration, had Joe ship it to Oroville WA and today I went down to pick it up.... All I can say is WOW !!! .... WHAT A BEAUTY !!!

The rifle is a "Standard" grade and the stock is rated a #3.... some nice figuring and highlights in the grain as you can see.... The bluing is nicer than anything I have, deep and even.... a true work of art as far as I am concerned.... It has the standard DAQ action with a separate cocking lever for the hammer, and comes with a male Foster and Weaver mounts.... It weighs 7 lbs. 13 oz. as it sits.... The gun is intended for cast lead bullets of 115-130 gr., similar to a .30 M-1 Carbine.... and is touted to have 4-5 shots at ~850 fps, hammering out about 200 FPE.... Shocked

Above is a comparison of pellets.... .177 cal 8.4 gr., .22 cal 15.9 gr. and .25 cal 25.4 gr. JSB Exacts, a 120 gr. .308, and a 9mm EunJin 78 gr..... While I was waiting for the gun to be made and arrive, I got some Lee casting and sizing equipment and a few weeks ago I did my first pour of 120 gr. Lee round nose .308 bullets.... and I'm very pleased with the results....

I've ordered a Bushnell Legend 5-15 x 40 from sniper Dan to mount on it.... Once that arrives and I can spring some time to get out into the bush I'll give a report on how it performs.... I'm sure it's wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too loud to fire in my backyard, even with the great neighbours I've got.... Laughing

Bob

SMP · Silver Status Member

WOW.....Holy jumpins Bob that's a beauty. I cant wait to hear how it shoots.

oddtodd · Silver Status Member

200 FPE. Out of an air gun. All I can say is Dayum!!!

sniper · Silver Status Member

Tator had to fight keeping it for himself. Laughing

rsterne · Moderator

Yeah I figured.... I told a couple buds too.... Embarassed

I can't say enough about all the help Joe was.... Mr. Green

Bob

Slavia · Moderator

Very nice indeed. I doubt non-airgunners will mistakenly refer to it as a BB gun.

1. Do you anticipate having to lube or re-size the bullets?
2. What BC do you figure for the bullets?
3. Does this make Joe an international arms dealer?

rsterne · Moderator

1. Maybe - I have sized a few to find if there is any difference.... As cast they vary from 0.309" to 0.311".... sized to 0.308".... Lubing will not be required as they are cast from pure lead, and the velocity is normal for any airgun....

2. According to Lee, that bullet has a BC of 0.163.... Mr. Green

3. No, because according the BATF, airguns are not firearms.... even thought I had to register it as a non-restricted firearm before I imported it into Canada.... Joe only handled the transactions within the USA anyway, I took it across the border it....

Bob

oddtodd · Silver Status Member

Oh, so YOU are the international arms dealer then Bob. lol

Mark5043 · Silver Status Member

Wow!...That is one sweet rig.You just took it to a whole new level. Thumb Up!

I'm sure I'm not the only one waiting for the full report..... Razz

200 FPE.....nice! Twisted Evil

All pest issues now solved.... Laughing

I really like that stock.....classy.... Wink

yourdaddyjoe · Supporting Member

My Pleasure to fondle it for a month or two... Laughing

My only regret is that I was in the process of moving and did not get the opportunity to shoot it!

RVTMaverick · Member

Hey Bob,

I remember the thread you started about those Very Nice "Cast BULLETS"
{those ain't NO Pellets LOL}.... Very Nice... And Your NEW Beautiful Rifle!.....
What can one say but...>>> WOW! Cool

I love My New Rifle.... but she ain't got nothing on Yours!
But there is the matter of $$$$ Too eh.. Wink

Well done Bob, well done!

Peace Jeff

broommaster2000 · Moderator

An Air Rifle that comes with a kick. Wink

Saying "have fun" is a little redundant I guess. Mr. Green

SMP · Silver Status Member

Hallooooo Bob

'bout time for an update eh

Mr. Green

rsterne · Moderator

WOO HOO!!!.... I finally got out to our camp to try out the Exile.... Here are my first impressions....

It's LOUD !!!

It's a AIR HOG !!!

It needs the scope shimmed a LOT !!!

It's pretty accurate for not broken in yet....

I put about 60 rounds through it today.... about 15 each of the Lee 120 gr. Round Nose (sized and unsized) and the Lee 113 gr. Round/Flat (sized and unsized).... The velocity was remarkably similar between the 4 types of boolits.... but that could be because they all weighed virtually the same (118-119 gr).... I filled to 3000 psi and shot 3 shots per fill by which time the pressure was down to 1800 psi (YUP, 400 psi per shot!).... The first shot went 835 fps, second shot about 785, and the third shot about 745.... averaging about 785-790 fps depending on boolit.... That means that the average FPE is ~160 FPE and the first shot is running ~185 FPE.... To me, this means that the hammer spring is too heavy or the fill pressure is too low.... but I guess the intention is for the first (kill) shot to be the most powerful.... Unfortunately, this means it sucks air like a house on fire....

It's hard to measure the volume of the air reservoir.... but the rear part of the tube (where the hammer is) is 1.125" OD x 0.065" wall.... The tube appears to be made in two halves joined just in front of the hammer.... There are a couple of "dents" on the bottom of the reservoir about 2" ahead of the join.... I assume that is either preventing the valve from sliding forward.... or is a tamper-proofing to prevent valve removal.... I really have NO idea.... I can't even be sure if the wall thickness of the reservoir is the same as the rear (hammer) portion.... but from the front dent, the tube is about 20" long, so I used 15.5 CI for the volume.... This results in an efficiency of just under 0.4 FPE/CI (42 Barcc/FPE).... No wonder its LOUD !!!

I tried sighting the gun in, and couldn't adjust the scope up enough to get a zero at 15 yards.... The DAQ has a barrel band you adjust by twisting at the front of the air reservoir to get an approximate windage (a great idea BTW) so that was easy.... get it close and lock it in place with the 3 set screws.... I had to use 2-3 MilDots holdover at 50 yards to test the groups.... but that went relatively well.... The best group I got, 1.20" CTC, was with the 120 gr. RN unsized, followed at 1.25" by the sized.... The unsized 113 gr. FN (which is the same boolit with a 3/16" diam. flat on the front) shot 1.37" and the sized shot 2.37".... I think the first three are decent groups at 50 yards.... and as I become more familiar with the gun and tweak it a bit they will likely tighten to about 1" or so.... To correct the scope alignment I plan to machine about 0.040" off the top of the front Weaver mounting block.... That should put me in the middle of the adjustment range on the scope....

Well, this is my first experience with a Big-Bore.... and it's an interesting beast to be sure.... The air usuage is about twice what the testing article on the Quackenbush website stated.... but they also had the second shot the fastest, and slower than mine.... They were getting 5 shots on a 3200 psi fill, so I'm thinking I may have to reduce the hammer spring preload a bit to reduce the air consumption.... Any suggestions from those with experience on an Exile would be more than welcome.... Mr. Green

Bob

SMP · Silver Status Member

Wow that's great Bob. I have been avidly waiting to hear how that baby shot.

It's interesting that you got the best groups out of the unsized rounds. That barrel may want a slightly tighter fit. Were you using a bullet lube of any kind? I had a .55 thompson that loved (bullet butter...can't remember if this is the trade name)I don't have any experience with big bore air but I have some with black powder.

Great groups Bob. Roughly 2 MOA is nothing to sneeze at from Big Bore anything