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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:05 am Reply with quote
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Is there a pressure relief on a QB78 valve?

I'm trying to run mine on HPA and everytime I get to 800psi it vents out the bottom of the tube. It holds once it drops to 800. I'm shooting for 1000-1100 psi

Or possibly the valve assembly isn't screwed tightly together?

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There's no pressure relief valve on a QB, you probably have a faulty seal etc.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:13 pm Reply with quote
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Agreed. It's in bits now. there are no blemishes on the seal but that's the only possible cause.

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When you say that air is escaping from the bottom of the tube, where exactly do you mean?

Just another thought, do you put the valve into the tube before tightening it up, I know it a daft question but worth asking
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:59 pm Reply with quote
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When I wrote that originally the gun was assembled and it was generalized to "bottom of the tube'
Now that I have stripped it down it is coming out of the valve retaining screw
and thats equally odd. if it was just a leaking valve o ring it would come out everywhere. not just the screw hole.

I think I will give it the old soapy water bubble test just in case there is a hole/crack leading into that screw

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:19 pm Reply with quote
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Sounds like the screw was overtightened and the valve body is cracked.... Either that or the hole was drilled too deep.... Blue Locktite or even the purple hydraulic sealant as a repair?....

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well it passed the bubble test at 125psi. But that certainly doesn't mean there isn't a crack there thats opening up a higher pressures.

I was thinking the same thing myself Bob. A drip of blue is my only choice here at home. That or Gorilla brand crazy glue.

I'm just waiting for a trip up to Eric's at this point for a seal kit.

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The valve retaining screw is on the low pressure side of the valve if it is leaking there then it probably is the valve seat or seal?

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The valve retaining screw is on the low pressure side of the valve if it is leaking there then it probably is the valve seat or seal?

DUH!.... Yes, of course.... and if it's leaking there, it would be leaking out the barrel/breech.... So we're back to the O-ring if it's not leaking out the barrel with the bolt closed....

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Eureka!!!

As I was fiddling with the valve cleaning it and removing burrs I screwed it together and noticed that it came tight with a considerable gap. I measured everything and found that the Oring was only being squeezed 0.001 -0.002"




After a little more investigation I found that this sleeve causes the valve to come tight before any pressure is applied to the Oring so I shaved it 0.010".





After a quick shave and deburr I reassembled the valve into the tube and pressurized the tube.....No Leaks!

I'm leaving it to sit overnight at 1500psi while I go watch some tele with the Mrs and polish the hammer parts.

On a good not it gave me a reason to clean and deburr the tube
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