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AirGunEric · Site Admin

I was waiting for someone to throw that in- the idea that Crosman is making guns equivalent, or better than, most of the European guns in the same configuration (caliber, power, etc.) was bound to become a point of issue.

Personally, I can't see comparing a Quest or Phantom with a good Daystate, Diana or Weihrauch- but that doesn't diminish Crosman's role as the "King of project guns" which can generally be made to work very very well with enough sweat and tears poured into them.

StevieLaner7777 · Moderator

2RCHA · Veteran Member

Seriously,,Why would that be funny?,,because your putting one brand name up against another?,,the gun, which ever brand, or model that you use is just wood, metal, and plastic,,it's what's behind the gun that matter's. If your gun can pop baloon's at 100 yds,and so can mine, or if you can get one-holer's into your target at 25 meters, and I can too, so at the end of the day, it's whoever end's up with a rabbit in the pot,right?
a $500.00 gun is just as good as the shooter, pretty much the same as a $100.00 gun, wouldn't you say?, Andy.

On a side note,,I once went hunting with a friend of mine who has a very beautiful(and expensive) 'Beeman', while I was toting my B4 .177, at the end of the day, I had two "Jack's" in my bag, while my buddy only managed to get a real sour, and disgusted look on his face, especially when I kept mentioning the difference in the price tag's, Wink

, Andy.

Alstone · Moderator & Site Supporter

I think Eric's got it right Crosman is the "King of project guns", if you want somthing to customise or generally chop about then a Crosman or QB is the choice, and when it turns out well you get more satifaction and pride.
if you bought a Daystate or say an Air Arms rifle you would expect it to perform well, and I can't see anyone choping a lump off the barrel or fitting an home made breach on a $1000.00 rifle, and that is the diffrence they are entirely diffrent animals which only accasionally stray in to each others territory.

Al

broommaster2000 · Moderator

2RCHA · Veteran Member

The oldect gun I had in my collection was a "Sea Lion" B1 that lasted me 35 yrs, and when I got rid of it it could of been repaired easily, but since it was my wife's gun to use, she wanted something New, so a deal was struck, I toss it, and she get's a new gun Laughing

,(it was a Recon BTW), anyway's, I fully trust that all of my Chinese made weaponry will last long enough for me to pass them on down the line.

Alstone · Moderator & Site Supporter

broommaster2000 · Moderator

I remember my B2's to be quite solid. Didn't cost anything, and they did the job: penetrating cans. They did feel very cheap, but that was partly because of the gastly stock that seemed made out of wood that was made to look like... plastic. Mr. Green

There should still be some pictures somewhere roaming about on this forum.

Say, what if the person that's getting your collection doesn't like chinese airguns. Mr. Green

2RCHA · Veteran Member

I guess they're shyte out of luck,LOL,,,Anyway's, I wanted to say something about how durable these gun's can be,I'm a veteren who was in the army for 20yrs, and I had that B1 of mine on just about every exercise, and deployment I was on,,from Belize to Yugo, and the Mid-East, the bloody thing was just as tough as my FNC1A1, Laughing

,and on one occasion gave us some fresh meat, instead of IRP's, and was constantly being used for Scorpion defence in the Mid-East,,One drunken night, we used it bounce pellet's off of the Kevlar of a few sentrie's,,Andy.

The outdoorsman · Veteran Member

you guys cant compair crosman and up scale euro guns...why? you might ask

first the price you are compairing a $100 gun to a $400+ gun

as well crosman makes intro, guns not for people that are serious about airguns
as ive said before, dont compair a beattle to a cadilac
or a browning to a cooey

besides who buys a $1000 airrifle?

get a frigin powder burner!

ya you like the quietness of the air gun but, i would not spend over $200 on an airgun but a powderburner .... thats a different story

AirGunEric · Site Admin

23ib0d0n · Moderator

The outdoorsman · Veteran Member

damaged shoulders meaning...surgery or something....?
that i can understand but even a .410 or .22 rimfire ..... know what never mind ive been arguring a lot lately so i'll stop its just my opinion

Mar · Veteran Member

My Marksman slingshot will out shoot your sling shot. What a ridiculous post comparing apples to oranges. I like my Phantom but to come out and say it's ...my dad is stronger. beat you up, smarter...blah, blah, blah...is childish.

I can pretty much hit what I want with mine but I wish I own a Diana or better gun to tell you the truth.

Time to grow up man, you sound like a 13 year old.

Chinese still have a long way to go to make a VERY good product.

Here's a chinese made sword that I have two of and they bought broke and they are made of at least 1/4" steel.

Here's the full size view of it, nice till it breaks so they still have a way to go before I declare good enough.

broommaster2000 · Moderator

In Europe, a Crosman Phantom costs about 130 Euro's. A Slavia 630 costs around 90-110 E, and a Weihrauch HW30 costs 160 E. The Slavia is a pretty nice little shooter, the HW30 uses one of the best triggers (if not the best) on the market and is also keeping a good second hand price (if taken care of responsibly).

If you try to sell your Chinese airgun, for instance one that costed 120 E when you bought it new, you will get probably not much more then half of that money, and then you're lucky. I think that's something to take in consideration too.