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 Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 11:54 am |
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| Offroader |
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Hello
I'm looking for a very light but powerful air rifle. I bought the Crosman Phantom break barrel which is too heavy for my needs and is made in China, so I'll be taking it back to Walmart. Since I want it to be light, that eliminates break barrel guns right? I'll be happy with a good, reliable and versatile multi-pump rifle. If the barrel is rifled, will I be able to shoot darts with it, or will it damage the barrel. I would like it to be as versatile as can be and able to take any type of ammo (BB, pellet, darts, etc.). When I was a kid, I used to shoot those long blowgun darts with a Daisy Powerline. Like these darts: http://www.blowgun.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=32
Also, hunting small gamefowl with it would be nice. A 20 gauge shotgun is too easy. I'm really just looking for one of those cheap plastic but reliable multi-pump rifles made from like Crosman, Daisy, etc.
This Daisy Powerline has a rifled steel barrel and takes both BBs and pellets. Is it safe to shoot darts out of it?
Daisy Powerline 901
http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Daisy_Powerline_901/846
What about these?
http://www.pyramydair.com/p/daisy-880-multi-pump-air-rifle.shtml
http://www.pyramydair.com/p/daisy-880s-combo-multi-pump-air-rifle.shtml
http://www.pyramydair.com/p/remington-airmaster-77-air-rifle.shtml
http://www.pyramydair.com/p/crosman-recruit-multi-pump-pellet-rifle.shtml
http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Crosman_664GT_Powermaster_Air_rifle_kit/2011
http://www.pyramydair.com/p/crosman-2100b-air-rifle.shtml
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 12:11 pm |
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| oddtodd |
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| Well, you'll not be able to shoot those darts out of it unless you do some serious cutting down on the plastic skirt, and then you will have a problem with them being consistent. most, if not all of the rifles that you have posted were made overseas. I wouldn't use any of the ones you have listed for hunting personally. They just aren't powerful enough. I am very picky about what I shoot though. I have a 760 myself and shooting pellets through it is reasonably accurate. I wouldn't use BBs though. They can ruin the rifling. I wouldn't go after anything bigger than a starling with it either. May I ask why a break barrel is too heavy? I shoot them all the time and I never have any problems with them. |
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 12:34 pm |
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Thanks for you reply!
I forgot to mention that a did cut down the plastic on those darts. 
Here's the gun I bought:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Crosman-Phantom-.177-Break-Barrel-Carbine/15103390
-edit- the weight is not 6.02 lbs as advertised. It is 9 lbs. -edit-
The weight would be ok if it was the only thing I'd be carrying, but I do a lot of backpacking with a lot a gear (external frame backpack, tent, sleeping bag, and a bunch of other camping stuff). I go out for 2 weeks sometimes and would like the gun to be disassembled, in it's own pouch and strapped to the top of my backpack (under where I put my tent). This is why I want it to be light as possible but still be able to take out a quail. The Daisy Powerline I had as a kid did this easy and was super light. I would just buy another one, but I feel there might be something better with the same weight. |
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 12:50 pm |
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Where are you located?
I have a Daisy Powerline 901 that I will sell for cheap and you can try it out or even modify it without spending the bucks for a new one
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 12:53 pm |
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| Nevermind I just read your last post and realized you already purchased a rifle |
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 1:01 pm |
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Last edited by Offroader on Fri May 27, 2011 1:45 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 1:42 pm |
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| oddtodd |
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Go to crosman.com and look at the 2400 custom rifle. It's lightweight and is quite powerful with the longest barrel. you can knock it down by taking 2 screws out of the stock and carry it easily. It's also very lightweight and if you go full max like I did on everything you will just have about 200 bucks in a very well built and lightweight rifle. That's top of the line scope, break and trigger shoe.
Just to make a good pack rifle would cost you a little over 150 bucks. That with shoulder stock and the top of the line scope, no other frills. I have both the 2300 pistol and the 2400 rifle in .22 and I would use them for anything up to a large crow. I have taken many, many squirrels, starlings and crows with both my 2300 and my 2400. They are CO2 powered so you don't have multiple pumps to mess with and the larger caliber of .22 makes a big difference on impact. It's my go to gun in the spring and summer.
It's kind of expensive for a starter gun, but it is worth it. THe other thing that makes it nice is you don't have to resight it after you take it apart and put it back together. The scope is very nice for the money too. It's adjustable objective, 3-9 zoom, and lit reticle, with a 40 mm lens, so it's a nice bright picture even at top zoom. |
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 2:06 pm |
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I would suggest a Crosman 2289 Backpacker.... It's light, the stock comes off, and it's a multi-pump pneumatic.... If you fit it with a Flat-topped piston and valve it is capable of about 600-650 fps with 14.3 gr. pellets at about 15-18 pumps.... You can get even more power with other mods.... Crosman are discontinuing them however, so you may have to look around to find one.... It looks like the gun in my Avatar....
I personally would stay away from CO2 unless you are always going to be using the gun in temperatures ABOVE 60*F.... and 70-75*F is better....
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 2:21 pm |
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| Offroader wrote: |
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| Nevermind I just read your last post and realized you already purchased a rifle |
I'm thinking about taking it back though. I would probably buy yours but I'm in Las Vegas and I see you're "By the ocean".  Why do you want to sell it? Are you trying to say that a Powerline isn't worth keeping?
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I'm in Cali so it's probably a one or 2 day shipping point from me.
It's been a great gun so far, but I am no longer just plinking or shooting the occasional pocket gopher in the backyard so I upgraded to a break barrel capable of pest control in much greater numbers with a lot more take down power and no longer need the Powerline. |
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 3:24 pm |
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 3:18 am |
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Everything at Walmart is made in China! Lol, but if you want something compact and light the 2289 is a great start, or get a 1377 and get the steel breech, 24" barrel, and flat top valve and piston (http://accustomparts.com/13xxFlatTopPiston.aspx this guy will face your valve for free if you buy a piston) and shoulder stock and you will have spent less than 200 bucks, probably closer to 160-170. Chop the barrel to whatever length and you got yourself a shooter. Those guns are more efficient fp/e wise in .22 but .177 will be a faster flatter shooter. All your preference.
rsterne is the guy to talk to about that platform if you want to know anything else. Actually most of what I know about them is from him! |
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