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Air Gun Home Forum Index » General Air Gun Questions and Topics » Track of the Wolf .25 cal Barrels? Goto page 1, 2  Next    View previous topic :: View next topic  Track of the Wolf .25 cal Barrels?   Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:11 am rsterne Moderator Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 2998 Location: Coalmont, BC I have a question about the .25 cal barrel "liners" from Track of the Wolf.... They list three different ones in .25 cal: .25-20 (.250 bore, .257 groove, 14" twist) .25-35 (.250 bore, .257 groove, 10" twist) .25 Auto (.243 bore, .250 groove, 14" twist) I know that the head diameter of .25 cal pellets is nominally 0.250".... I would assume that in a .250 bore, the head would only ride on the rifling.... while in the .243 bore it would be engaged.... Does anyone have any experience with these barrels?.... Which would you recommend?.... Bob _________________ Dominion Marksman Silver Shield - 5890 x 6000 in 1976, and downhill ever since! Airsonal: Too many to count!   Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:37 pm Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA A 10" or 14" twist seems a little fast - the airguns that I have measured have all been high teens or low twenties. Check out the Greenhill formula for determining optimal twist rate. (But remember an airgun pellet is partially drag stabilized.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rifling _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:49 pm rsterne Moderator Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 2998 Location: Coalmont, BC I realize that.... LW barrels are 450mm (17.7") twist.... On the other hand, too much is less of a problem than too little.... Anybody have experience with these barrel liners?.... Bob _________________ Dominion Marksman Silver Shield - 5890 x 6000 in 1976, and downhill ever since! Airsonal: Too many to count!   Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:22 am jlwilliams Veteran Member Joined: 02 Oct 2009 Posts: 264 Location: Jacksonville, NC USA I don't have any experience with them, but I'd like to hear how it works when you try them. I think you are right. The .243 bore .250 groove is probably going to be the best option for .25 pellets or ball. How much coin do these liners cost? Got a link? What are you planning on putting the barrel on?   Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:47 am yourdaddyjoe Supporting Member Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 4027 Location: Tatorville, USA Nope... I was going to pull the trigger on one... but Lothar Walther barrel blanks run less when you add up the $4.89 per inch price on a 23" barrel.... _________________ Say "NO" to BB Gun Wars... Quid Pro Quo Rule: An eye for an eye... www.HPASports.com www.Facebook.com/hpasports   Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:58 am rsterne Moderator Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 2998 Location: Coalmont, BC Problem is getting LW barrels into Canada.... They won't deal without a $380 US Export permit in place.... Here is the list of liners: http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/TableList.aspx?catID=14&subID=142&styleID=483&PageSize=25&Page=1&as=1 Bob _________________ Dominion Marksman Silver Shield - 5890 x 6000 in 1976, and downhill ever since! Airsonal: Too many to count!   Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:21 am yourdaddyjoe Supporting Member Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 4027 Location: Tatorville, USA You could argue with them... No Export permit required if the order total including shipping is less than $2500... I just went through this with USPS... Orders less than $2500 are exempt... _________________ Say "NO" to BB Gun Wars... Quid Pro Quo Rule: An eye for an eye... www.HPASports.com www.Facebook.com/hpasports   Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:09 pm jlwilliams Veteran Member Joined: 02 Oct 2009 Posts: 264 Location: Jacksonville, NC USA Buying it by the inch adds up quick. Still, it makes sense if you want to make a .25 barrel for something like a Tallon SS where you only have ten or eleven inches. Lots of springers have between a foot and a foot and a half, still not bad. Two feet for a Condor is getting expensive. It all depends on what you need. If you can't get a Walther barrel shipped directly to Canada, and what you really want is one of those; could you have it shipped to someone in the US then have them ship it to you? That adds shipping cost which would have to be factored in. I'm just saying that if it's what you need for your project that it may be worth it to get what you want.   Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:15 pm rsterne Moderator Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 2998 Location: Coalmont, BC I'm interested in Joe's suggestion that there may be an exemption for orders under $2500.... Some of the imformation I have found indicates that anyone exporting barrels (and certain other firearm parts) from the US could face up to 5 years in jail.... No way would I want to put a friend in jeopardy.... Bob _________________ Dominion Marksman Silver Shield - 5890 x 6000 in 1976, and downhill ever since! Airsonal: Too many to count!   Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:34 pm jlwilliams Veteran Member Joined: 02 Oct 2009 Posts: 264 Location: Jacksonville, NC USA No exporting barrels? That's news to me. I'd better look into that. I sold a few barrels and such on gunbroker a little while ago. Sold them in the US, but if someone from Canada had bid I doubt it would have even occured to me that it may be a problem. Definitely worth finding the facts on this.   Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:18 pm yourdaddyjoe Supporting Member Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 4027 Location: Tatorville, USA The US ECCN for air guns is EAR99 which is a catch all number... Everything I found points to them being exempt if the total value is less than $2500 per shipment to the same recipiant every 60 days. This all has to do with the US Exporting License requirements... Not some fine or imprisonment for shipping a air gun or rifle barrel. I'm still waiting for a direct answer from the Census office which is the office that has jurisdiction on Export Licenses... _________________ Say "NO" to BB Gun Wars... Quid Pro Quo Rule: An eye for an eye... www.HPASports.com www.Facebook.com/hpasports   Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:56 pm 69Hotrod69 Veteran Member Joined: 09 Aug 2010 Posts: 135 Location: San Diego CA Bob, cant someone in US buy it for you and ship it through post? _________________ Close doesn't cut it! In Fishing or Shooting! Rod   Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:10 pm rsterne Moderator Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 2998 Location: Coalmont, BC This is becoming quite a can of worms.... the more I dig, the more confusing it gets: http://www.losttarget.com/importfirearmcanada.htm Bob _________________ Dominion Marksman Silver Shield - 5890 x 6000 in 1976, and downhill ever since! Airsonal: Too many to count!   Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:32 pm 69Hotrod69 Veteran Member Joined: 09 Aug 2010 Posts: 135 Location: San Diego CA Can I stick it some clay call it art and send it. LOL _________________ Close doesn't cut it! In Fishing or Shooting! Rod   Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:41 pm 69Hotrod69 Veteran Member Joined: 09 Aug 2010 Posts: 135 Location: San Diego CA on a serious note I wonder if it matters if it is a barrel blank as opposed to a barrel. I know it's simantics but sometimes that all that matters. _________________ Close doesn't cut it! In Fishing or Shooting! 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