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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:52 am Reply with quote
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I have been trying to figure out what makes the gun hold sensitive? What I realized so far, the more the length of the barrel is the less sensitive it is. Can we have some lights on it?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:36 pm Reply with quote
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the more the length of the barrel is the less sensitive it is

Actually, the reverse is true for most springers.... They develop most of their velocity in the first 12-14" of barrel or so.... after that the pellet is just in the gun longer and has a greater chance of being disturbed as the gun rocks around doing it's "double recoil" thing....

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:16 am Reply with quote
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rsterne wrote:
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the more the length of the barrel is the less sensitive it is

Actually, the reverse is true for most springers.... They develop most of their velocity in the first 12-14" of barrel or so.... after that the pellet is just in the gun longer and has a greater chance of being disturbed as the gun rocks around doing it's "double recoil" thing....

Bob


If that is the case then why 77K is much easy to shoot than 97K where as Both laying on same platform?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:45 am Reply with quote
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I can't answer that as I have never shot either rifle.... I do notice, however, that even the 77K barrel is not what would be considered "long" at only 14.6".... The 77 has an 18.5" barrel.... and the 97K is only 11.8" which would be considered "short"....

Possibly if what you state is true about the 77K being easier to shoot it is simply better balanced.... and the shot cycle of that particular action simply works better with a "medium" length barrel.... Perhaps the 97K just requires a different "hold"....

pr perhaps.... all generalizations are false.... including this one.... Mr. Green

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:02 pm Reply with quote
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Hmm, just checked and my rifle has a barrel length of almost 20". Is there a theoretical recommended "best" hold for a gun with a long barrel like that? When shooting, I am almost always standing and hold the rifle as lightly as I can to keep it steady with the butt of the rifle pressed firmly but not tightly on my shoulder. Thanks for any info or recommendations in advance.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:58 pm Reply with quote
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i place the forearm in my "cupped" hand (left) utilizing "direct bone support" and just let the rifle rest on it and get the butt firmly in the pocket of my shoulder and keep a cheek weld follow-up...

training by U.S. Army infantry... Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:48 am Reply with quote
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The BSA Lightning is hold sensitive in spite of it's short barrel. It's 6 or 7 inch I think, but I'll measure it later today if anyone's interested.

A good rifle to learn how to shoot with though.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:26 am Reply with quote
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TX 200 is sensitive too being very well balanced with short barrel and costly. Where is CFX is not at all sensitive in-spite of longer barrel.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:24 pm Reply with quote
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The TX200 is one of the least sensitive springers on the market.

Along with the HW77s and HW97s.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:18 pm Reply with quote
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Depends on the shooter. I've found the HW97k to be reasonably forgiving, but it depends on what you expect.

Weihrauchs need a good tuning and be set at about 12 Fpe, and they will shoot like a match gun.

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