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rsterne · Moderator

According to another Airgun Forum, the Crosman Marauder has been banned in Canada.... The barrel shroud is considered a silencer, so the gun has been given "prohibited" status by the CFC.... Rolling Eyes

Bob

aircube · Veteran Member

WOW!, I thought we lived in such a great country. Embarassed

That is truely disapointing Evil or Very Mad

Whats even more disapointing is that the policy makers have NO clue what type of great people the airgunning as a hobby community is made up of. We are talking about grown men that are buying and using these while pursuing their hobby.

A punk is NOT going to purchase a $600 Maruader to carjack someone, or to do drive-bys.

NOBODY is going to buy a Maurader and commit a crime with it, GET REAL!

Its too damn bad common sense is soooooo damn uncommon. Neutral

aircube · Veteran Member

I don't get it man, if an airgun is too noisy people complain, if its too quiet people complain.

Are airguns a problem in canada? Air Rifles?

Or is it just when punks get a hold of them?

Rogerflat · Silver Status Member

But these policy makers are just pencil pushers and beuracrats sitting around looking to pass some arbitrary piece of legislation so they can punch their ticket and look productive.

Do you think the people who pass these laws care about airgunners? Or even understand airgunning? Hell no.

But I wonder if you can just pay them off like you can in the US and get a license to possess it.

aircube · Veteran Member

Hopefully Crosman will respond with an unshrouded barrel for the Marauder for Canada Smile

sniper · Silver Status Member

well, after tomorrow i have all the money for mine and just need a good scope. Wink

come on tim, pick up the phone, my rats are waiting.....

AirGunEric · Site Admin

I have spent a good part of the day going around and around working on this issue.

1) Yes- the Marauder has been classified as "Prohibited" because of the suppressor.
2) Yes, I am po'd as I was getting one of the first units for evaluation in Canada.
3) There may be a solution to the issue and Crosman may be willing to do it- if the potential volume of sales in Canada seems to be present.

After speaking with the CFC and a couple of the most well-known Crosman tuners in the U.S., it appears as thought the Marauder suppressor is, in everyone who's seen/tested it's opinion, to be too good. 'Too good' as in better than any on any other airgun suppressor produced up to now. This is an impressive statement as it was first mentioned by one of the guys who construct their own suppressed barrels- Tim at Mac-1. The rifle's accuracy is also beyond comparison to anything costing less than $1000.00. Apparently this is one damn fine rifle.

It should have been obvious, looking back, for anyone who had tested a Marauder that there was no way it was going to be classified as anything other than "Prohibited" for Canada as a result of the suppressor. Personally, I never got to test fire one, so I had no idea.

Anyways, I am working with Crosman sales and engineering (and attempting to co-ordinate with the CFC on specs) as to what can be done to have a modified Marauder re-classified as merely "non-restricted" and able to be brought in to Canada. Technically, this is possible- but- and here is the issue: Crosman needs to be pretty darn certain the sales volume will be there for an altered "Canada specific" version (not detuned, there would be no power decrease, but the suppressor would be gone).

Anyone in Canada who has been serious about buying a Marauder- post it up here so when I'm talking to Crosman I can give them a better idea of the market for such a thing. All I have had to offer them as a sales rationalization is that the Marauder should sell 50% more units in Canada than the Discovery did based on its increased features, better appearance and exceptional accuracy level (it does not share its barrel with any other Crosman product and uses a higher-end Lothar-Walther unit).

If you are in Canada and want a slightly modified Marauder for Canada- you need to let Crosman know, either through me or directly.

Sucky news!

AirGunEric · Site Admin

- and sniper is going to have his before I get mine...

Tell Tim I said 'Hello'. Angry Splat

sniper · Silver Status Member

TONBON · Veteran Member

I'M NOT FROM CA.(oops)
but i also have my sights on one of these.

aircube · Veteran Member

sniper · Silver Status Member

a review on pyramid had it going 950 fps w/ predators @ 32fpe!!!!!!

I shall see... sooner or later... Rolling Eyes

i saw tim today, crosman is telling him NOTHING!!!!!!!!

I WANT MY DAMN RIFLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kanyon · Silver Status Member

In the not two distance future our new laws are going to come..
So far the talk is that any air gun over 24fpe will require a F.A.L

That will only really efect the PCP owner....Mine at 45 & 65 fpe
will not make the cut.........

Pete

Lipoly · Veteran Member

This a dead post resurrection, but I want to ask: Is this still the case (Stock Marauder being "prohibited" in Canada)?

AirGunEric · Site Admin

Until Crosman makes a version with no suppressor on it, it will remain Prohibited in Canada.

And that is a "yes" to the question, BTW. Mr. Green