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Air Gun Home Forum Index » Accessories » Crosman reps says use Mobil 1 synthetic for Pellgunoil Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next    View previous topic :: View next topic    Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:12 pm AirGunEric Site Admin Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 6909 Location: "Out There" Dartssnake wrote: Castor Oil is not petroleum based... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castor_oil True enough- but nonetheless irrelevant- it is flammable. _________________ ` I'd say "I care." But I'd be lying. Canadian Airgun Supplier: http://www.scopesandammo.com/storefront   Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:47 pm oddtodd Silver Status Member Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 2029 Location: Richmond, IN USA On the airgun academy website that Pyramyd runs they say to use 20 weight machine oil. And they have some good tips on how to maintain your airguns. _________________ Airguns: Two starlings talking "Larry, did you hear that? Larry?? LARRY!!!!"   Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:10 pm NZ Shooter Suspended Joined: 17 Dec 2011 Posts: 146 Location: Dunedin, New Zealand OOOH I do love reading threads in which our valued members opinions / facts differ. This does however bring out the best, and deepest knowledge from our airgunning minds. Lets just hope it doesn't come to this Or this _________________ Webley Patriot .22 @ 28 fpe Nikko MountMaster 4x40 AO   Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:48 pm radar Silver Status Member Joined: 13 Nov 2011 Posts: 1138 Location: Des Moines, Iowa, USA Eric is right, of course. The flammability is the biggest issue. My RWS 34 does diesel once or twice after I put a drop or two of their proprietory air-chamber oil in it, so I assume the silicone oil is also flammable--at least to some degree. I would not put in synthetic motor oil or any other non-recommended lubricant. Silicone and synthetic are not the same. They just both start with an "S" and the similarity ends there. Synthetic motor oil comes in 3+ types, and they are usually blended for best overall performance, price, and engine seal compatibility. Most synthetic is just a group III oil which is a highly refined petroleum base stock. The others, groups IV and V (esters and glycols) are more truly synthetic in that they are created molecules, but they are still mostly similar to the petroleum base in behaviors, even if they were pure--which they are not. They also contain anti-foam additives, detergents/dispersants, high pressure anti-wear additives, anti-acid additives, pour point depressents, VI improvers, and a number of other things that may or may not be good for an airgun or its seals. Engine oil manufacturers also change their formulations regularly and without announcement. (BTW, I wouldn't put Mobil 1 in my engine, let alone an airgun--but that's just from seeing the high iron numbers in so many used oil analyses--That's why I use Valvoline, Castrol or Pennzoil Synthetics. End of story.) Here's the thing though: Am I wrong or were we originally talking about Crosman Pelgunoil which is for hinges, etc., and not for air chambers or high pressure areas either for high pressure air or spring-piston guns where it could explode? Don't they have a separate product for those applications, or am I mixing up the product names? Last edited by radar on Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:54 am; edited 2 times in total _________________ It's never too late to have a happy childhood.   Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:06 pm oddtodd Silver Status Member Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 2029 Location: Richmond, IN USA I thought we were talking about pellgun oil. At least that's what I was going by. In a chamber you should never use pellgun oil and the chamber lube is the only thing you can use. I don't want to see anyone lose an eye over this. So, are we talking about pellgun oil? lol _________________ Airguns: Two starlings talking "Larry, did you hear that? Larry?? LARRY!!!!"   Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:03 am radar Silver Status Member Joined: 13 Nov 2011 Posts: 1138 Location: Des Moines, Iowa, USA Yes you are right. I looked it up here: http://www.crosman.com/gear/care It is not the same as their silicone air chamber oil. I have used motor oil on hinges, joints, like that and kept it away from any seals or air chambers. It works fine for that in my experience. I have also read (may or may not be true) that Pellgunoil is similar, if not the same, as automatic transmission fluid. I don't know. I can afford a few drops of the proper Pellgunoil for occasional lubrication. _________________ It's never too late to have a happy childhood.   Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:20 pm SMP Silver Status Member Joined: 04 Feb 2011 Posts: 1183 Location: Just south of "Out There"- Land O Lakes Ontario Screw it... Just put this stuff on everything...your gun wont blow up _________________ Sean   Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:21 pm radar Silver Status Member Joined: 13 Nov 2011 Posts: 1138 Location: Des Moines, Iowa, USA SMP wrote: Screw it... Just put this stuff on everything...your gun wont blow up I tried that and couldn't catch her...Kept slipping away and running giggling down the hallway. _________________ It's never too late to have a happy childhood.   Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:44 pm AirGunEric Site Admin Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 6909 Location: "Out There" I don't think I really want to know what SMP is doing with his guns anymore. "Personal lubricant" - seems there is no "shudder" smiley... _________________ ` I'd say "I care." But I'd be lying. Canadian Airgun Supplier: http://www.scopesandammo.com/storefront   Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:56 pm oddtodd Silver Status Member Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 2029 Location: Richmond, IN USA No, but there is these : _________________ Airguns: Two starlings talking "Larry, did you hear that? Larry?? LARRY!!!!"   Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:27 am Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA Quote: I have also read (may or may not be true) that Pellgunoil is similar, if not the same, as automatic transmission fluid. Go back to the beginning of the thread and check out the MSDS - it's motor oil. Quote: I don't think I really want to know what SMP is doing with his guns anymore. "Personal lubricant" How do you think I get a 0.6" diameter barrel to fit in a piece of 0.5" vinyl tubing? _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:36 am SMP Silver Status Member Joined: 04 Feb 2011 Posts: 1183 Location: Just south of "Out There"- Land O Lakes Ontario See....That's what I'm sayin ....At least Slavia can keep up Besides gotta add a little interest into these perennial conversations about what to lubricate a hinge point with _________________ Sean   Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:06 am oddtodd Silver Status Member Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 2029 Location: Richmond, IN USA Slavia, since it's water based, do you have any problems with corrosion? _________________ Airguns: Two starlings talking "Larry, did you hear that? Larry?? LARRY!!!!"   Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:03 pm Slavia Moderator Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 4382 Location: Waseca, Minnesota, USA None that I have noticed - maybe because my application is a tight fit and oxygen doesn't get in much. In fact, I can't recall any application where there was accelerated rust due to K-Y use. _________________ ¡Listo! ¡Apunte! ¡Fuego!   Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:21 pm oddtodd Silver Status Member Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 2029 Location: Richmond, IN USA Well, I hope that there isn't any rust on what the product is designed for. I wouldn't want to know if that was rusting anyway. _________________ Airguns: Two starlings talking "Larry, did you hear that? Larry?? LARRY!!!!" 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