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rsterne · Moderator

I'm kind of surprised nobody here has mentioned the new Hatsan line of PCPs.... Very extensive lineup of single shot in .177, .22 and .25 cal plus 10 shot repeaters in .177 and .22 cal.... Available with wood stocks (Monte Carlo only) and three synthetic stocks (black, camo, & woodgrain) in both Monte Carlo and Thumbhole versions.... They all use a side cocking lever instead of a bolt.... 200 bar (3000 psi) fill, and removable 180 cc reservoir.... adjustable trigger and adjustable buttpad.... advertised as 90 shots at 1070 fps in .177, 80 shots at 970 fps in .22 and 70 shots at 670 fps in .25.... weight varies from 7.3 to 8.3 lbs.... I think this is the coolest of all.... a 10 shot pump action....

Check out their lineup at:

http://www.hatsan.com.tr/pcp_air_rifles.asp

Apparently they are going to make sub-500 fps versions for Canada as well as full power.... These are obviously the origin of the Hammerli Pneuma and Air Venturi HaleStorm.... Prices quoted in Canada from $325 to $495 but who knows until they actually land here.... Rolling Eyes

Bob

kanyon · Silver Status Member

The AT44 10 shot are $980 here the cheapest PCP
on the market over here.....

Pete

AirGunEric · Site Admin

They are not "new"- they've been out for over a year. I believe there was some talk about them around here in early 2009.

The problem is- they're pieces of crap by all accounts.

Early last year, Pyramyd and Hammerli both took the AT44 and re-branded it under their own labels. PyramydAir was hugely disappointed with the sales volume and had many complaints about jamming on the 10-shot units, they are apparently excessively loud, and the overall quality and finish was rough. They will be discontinuing their version when they have sold off all the stock. Hammerli- I never got into a discussion with them about it, but apparently their sales volume on the unit has not been great either.

Essentially, it was/is a cheaply made Turkish PCP that everyone thought they could capitalize on by offering it at a favorable pricepoint. Based on what people have told me about it- we're all better off keeping our Disco's with a RIM unit.

How about a sub-500fps Talon for Canada?

broommaster2000 · Moderator

Some older topics:

http://www.airgunhome.com/agforum/viewtopic.php?t=1813&highlight=hatsan

http://www.airgunhome.com/agforum/viewtopic.php?t=2706&highlight=hatsan

They're getting better every batch. I've shot one of the third batch or so. One of the things to note on that point is the extra barrel band. The reservoir is removed to fill the rifle and you have less chance of damaging your thread with two barrel bands. Trigger got better with one or two batches back too and it wasn't to bad to begin with.

Hatsan is delivering a very good rifle with this one. They're ridiculously popular over here.

On the Dutch forum there was one guy who sort of stood against everyones opinion that these rifles were bad, and he compared it to a BSA Scorpion T-10, a rifle considered to be top notch. Guess what, he liked the Hatsan a ton better and that's what I believe got people to think "Hey, why not!". They're pretty entry level, if you want power for a decent price, over here they're a better deal then the Marauder.

Bluing is better too, near European. Finish is good too. Everything is so darn decent about these rifles. Aftermarket prices are REAL cheap too. Magazines are also interchangeable with the older Webley rifles, meaning that you can now get cheap magazines for your Webley PCPas well.

I've shot the rifle too. They're available in several calibers from .177 to .25.

I was an AT-44 sceptic to start with, but several things have let me to believe that they have well improved since the first series.
This is one of those rifles that made the Hatsan Reputation better and it has put turkey definitely on the market of proper airguns.

packrat · Senior Member

AT44S10 looks pretty good from here Smile

Anyone know of retailers in USA?

broommaster2000 · Moderator

Also known as the Hammerli Pneuma or the RWS Halestorm, or something.

packrat · Senior Member

Yeah, it's Hammerli Pnuema and Air Venturi Halestorm....... I was hoping ( as usual) price would have been more within my budget range, but as usual, I was wrong!! Rolls Royce taste with Yugo finances Crying or Very sad

Both nice looking with impressive specs..I just cannot afford....
While looking, I did notice that 850magnum combo (hammerli) nice looking gun, and within my budget.